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12-19-2011, 12:24 PM
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Guru
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RE: Teak Dowel?
JD,
Haha and then there is the bung wrench to be used on bungs in fuel oil barrels.
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12-19-2011, 12:24 PM
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#22
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Guru
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RE: Teak Dowel?
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Marin wrote:
All the packages and bulk bins I see of wood plugs at places like Fisheries Supply, LFS, etc are labeled "plugs."* The only place I have ever seen the word "bung" is from a few people on this forum.* Even on the GB owners forum, where a fair number of the boats are wood, their owners talk about "deck plugs", not "deck bungs."* I think the term "bung" is technically correct, but from everything I read and see, it's a dead or near-dead term.
-- Edited by Marin on Monday 19th of December 2011 01:12:24 PM
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*Here is how they are named in Jamestown Distributors and Hamilton Marine respectively:*
Teak Wood Bungs / Plugs
BUNG TEAK 3/8" 100 PER PKG 114878
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So "bunged up" and "plugged up" both mean "going nowhere".
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12-19-2011, 12:43 PM
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#23
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Guru
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RE: Teak Dowel?
Haha this has been fun. I think Jamestown knows and uses the proper word but so many do'nt know what a bung is offering the word plug explains what bungs are. After all Jamestown dos'nt care if they sell bungs or plugs.*
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12-19-2011, 12:51 PM
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Scraping Paint
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Teak Dowel?
There is a boat on our dock named Hepsabeth. I asked the owner what the name meant-- I thought it was a character out of the Harry Potter books, like the message owl--- but was told it was the name of a family member many, many generations ago. Turns out that Hepsabeth was, like Elizabeth, a popular girl's name back in the very early years of this country. But it wasn't a very pretty-sounding name and it soon died out and only Elizabeth remained in use.
I think it's that way with bung and plug. Bung is a kind of stupid-sounding word whereas plug is short, modern, and tells you exactly what it is. Our language is always evolving and I think bung is headed the same way as Hepsabeth.
-- Edited by Marin on Monday 19th of December 2011 01:53:03 PM
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12-19-2011, 12:55 PM
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Veteran Member
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RE: Teak Dowel?
Quote:
nomadwilly wrote:
Haha this has been fun. I think Jamestown knows and uses the proper word but so many do'nt know what a bung is offering the word plug explains what bungs are. After all Jamestown dos'nt care if they sell bungs or plugs.*
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*In Scotland wher I grew up, a "bung" was also a "backhander" or simply a tip or bribe.
So of you "bung" Marin he may write nice things about you too
*
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12-19-2011, 01:27 PM
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#26
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Guru
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RE: Teak Dowel?
You think he needs to be bunged? I think we're getting on fine and having a good time too even though I do'nt bung him. How many others have had as much fun as Marin and I on the forum? We (myself included) have had many serious and technical arguments and/or discussions and I think this would be a sterile place w/o a patch of fun and humor. If I'm offending anybody please PM me and let me know if my fun is not your fun so I can at least apologize and cease to send bad copy or defend myself. I pick on Marin because he's articulate, very smart, listens to reason often and seems to be fully able to defend or/and assert himself. I really do'nt want to hurt anyone's feelings here so if I'm having too much fun at someone else's expense ...say so. See .....did'nt need to bung him at all. Good thing as a 72 year old man dos'nt get away w much bung'in anyway.
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12-19-2011, 01:43 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
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RE: Teak Dowel?
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12-19-2011, 02:42 PM
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Guru
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RE: Teak Dowel?
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nomadwilly wrote:
You think he needs to be bunged?
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*Um....before we commit to that, this is definition number 2 of "bung" on the Merriam Webster site. Something I never heard of and I think from now on I'll call those little wooden things "plugs"
"the cecum or anus especially of a slaughtered animal"
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12-19-2011, 03:34 PM
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Guru
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RE: Teak Dowel?
Jay, Oh Dam. Plugs they are then  *
David, Haha *I remember using that expression in high school. At that age we needed all the expressions we could get.*
Eric
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12-19-2011, 03:46 PM
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#30
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Moderator Emeritus
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RE: Teak Dowel?
Quote:
nomadwilly wrote:
Jay, Oh Dam. Plugs they are then *
David, Haha *I remember using that expression in high school. At that age we needed all the expressions we could get.*
Eric
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*I think that I am still at that age mentally.
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12-19-2011, 10:28 PM
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#31
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Guru
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RE: Teak Dowel?
You want me to pass judgement on your avatar?
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12-20-2011, 04:28 AM
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#32
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Guru
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RE: Teak Dowel?
Folks that make their own plugs usually have less problems with the plug sheering off at an angle.
Usually the grain is better in the owners scrap pile than a "make a million" plug operation.
The pull saws with the kerf on one side can be laid on a piece of paper with a hole the plug sticks thru , to get nice and close with no damage to the area.
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12-20-2011, 07:25 AM
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Scraping Paint
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RE: Teak Dowel?
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FF wrote:The pull saws with the kerf on one side can be laid on a piece of paper with a hole the plug sticks thru , to get nice and close with no damage to the area.
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Good point. If you only have a few plugs to do that is as good as a chisel and takes less practice.
The Japanese make some very good pull saws with offset blades and they are not very expensive either.
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12-21-2011, 10:18 AM
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Guru
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RE: Teak Dowel?
I used the chisel and had trouble. I then bought and used a Japanese pull saw that has tooth set only on one side, made for plug trimming [Lee Valley Tools]. The saw leaves just a hair of wood which I then either sand down or I use the chisel with the blade slid sideways across the plug to shave, rather than just plow full across.
The shaveing is quick and clean. Then a bit of a sand.
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