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Old 12-20-2017, 02:42 PM   #21
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Surprised that it's docked in Longview, Wa.? or that it is Liberian flagged?

The vessel is owned Taiwan-based Kuang Ming Shipping. How would the country of registry come into play here? There was a River Pilot on board. I assume he is local to Washington State.
Liberian registered ships are under that registry because it's cheap and lax on inspections and requirements. Several of the big news groundings, sinkings and oil spills in the last 20 years were Liberian flagged ships. Usually when a ship runs aground in the Columbia River is is caused by some mechanical failure. The ship that took out the Wauna dock lost its steering, and so on...
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Old 12-20-2017, 07:04 PM   #22
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So we are talking about at least three different ships/accidents here, and maybe more. Recent grounding in the Columbia river. Liberian registered, but a brand new ship. Then the Kitimat accident. And now the Busan in SF Bay.

Have I missed any?
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Old 12-20-2017, 07:24 PM   #23
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So we are talking about at least three different ships/accidents here, and maybe more. Recent grounding in the Columbia river. Liberian registered, but a brand new ship. Then the Kitimat accident. And now the Busan in SF Bay.

Have I missed any?
Nope. You got 'em all.
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Old 12-20-2017, 07:30 PM   #24
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Cota had prescriptions for drugs, that may have been a factor. He may or may not have been impaired. He left when 6 other pilots decided to remain at their berths. Fog so thick, couldn’t see bow! Pilot that had brought boat in, had no troubles with instruments or radar, but mentioned that ECDIS, seemed a bit off to the west. I think he served 10 months and lost his license. The spill is what got him. I think retirement at $150k is not so bad though. Had a friend who knew him well.
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Old 12-20-2017, 11:41 PM   #25
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First line of defense is a good offense. Pilot on boarding has the master sign off on the pilots log attesting that the Master has ultimate control at all times. One would suppose even when the master has verbally given the pilot authority in a specific moment.
On a personal note,
Several year past I have had a GPS go goofy at a tense moment in navigating a tidal rush in a narrow channel under manual steering. Dark, stormy, no vision of shoreside. You talk about scary. Sea going vertigo. All of sudden your screen shows 90 degree direction change with short distance to the shore. Panic time till you can calm down enough to clime to the fly bridge and navigate with eyeballs.

To read of a gyro failure and a sudden or uncontrolled shift in direction in a large ship has to be a real panic in a similar mode as my smaller issue.
(Removed and replaced the GPS unit as it was the issue)

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Old 12-21-2017, 12:32 AM   #26
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Nope. You got 'em all.
And have we got the "facts",and maybe the "alternative facts", blended into one or other, or all, to a great or lesser extent?
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