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Old 09-13-2018, 08:24 AM   #6041
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Woodie for sale in Seattle. Not many pics and looks like it could use a lot of TLC.

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/195...g#.W5pIH_YpARA
A beauty for sure! Soooo much work to maintain, though.

50's / 60's I did upkeep on boats similar to that in LI, NY "boat yards" [not called marinas back then in that region].

Strip to bare wood, bleach and then apply ten [10] coats "Valspar" brand of varnish; light sanding between each coat... till there was truly a mirror finish! Refasten bottom anyone! Replace rotten wood around windows! Replace transom due to rot. As youngster I worked with and learned from some fine old shipwrights.

Ed Monk Sr. [designer of this boat] is who designed most Tollycraft... ours being one. His son Ed Monk Jr. carried on in dad's foot steps.

Now I own only very well built, easy to maintain fiberglass boats - can you understand why - LOL
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:41 AM   #6042
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Given the amount of "TLC" needed from the scant pictures and what hasn't been shown I think the $49K asking price is $10K for the boat and $39K for the "nostalgia". Given that she has probably been berthed in freshwater for most of her life (I suspect) she hasn't had the luxury of salt water "preservation". Been there,done that. She'll have to go to a new owner with deep pockets who values her history. IF the 6-71 is in good shape, THAT'S worth a couple of $$ but...
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Old 09-13-2018, 09:23 AM   #6043
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Is this the same boat? Pruth Bay, Calvert Island, on BC's central coast in 2017;
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Old 09-13-2018, 09:49 AM   #6044
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Is this the same boat? Pruth Bay, Calvert Island, on BC's central coast in 2017;
Surely a lookalike. Bow rail looks different.
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Surely a lookalike. Bow rail looks different.
Might be a boat hook for poking at growlers...
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Old 09-13-2018, 10:17 AM   #6046
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Is this the same boat? Pruth Bay, Calvert Island, on BC's central coast in 2017;

Your pic looks much better!
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:25 PM   #6047
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Looks efficient but I see a big prop.
I love this FB layout.
The CQR in the chainpipe sure looks odd.
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:27 PM   #6048
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I remember one of my many concerns about wooden boats, seams, caulking cotton, caulking irons, hammers, seams fail to swell fully closed so the seams leak, dry rot. Wooden boat are classical and romantic but.....



I have seen some boats hauled out and glassed. Theysand thee hull back to fresh wood. Then make repairs and clean out the joints. They finish up by using a seam compound that stays soft. Then encapsulate the hull in two or three layers of 6 to 10 ounce fiberglass cloth and epoxy. It will take paint or UV stable stains and varnishes. Of course, not all hulls lend themselves to this type of treatment. Lapped joints being one of them.
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Ok....so I have too much time on my hands....

Maybe some work was done , but there are some subtle differences.
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Next to each other, they look like different boats or one pic is the same boat with work done to it.
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Old 09-13-2018, 02:45 PM   #6051
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Ok....so I have too much time on my hands....

Maybe some work was done , but there are some subtle differences.
I'd have to say same boat... different time of its long life!
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Old 09-13-2018, 03:03 PM   #6052
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Ok....so I have too much time on my hands....

Maybe some work was done , but there are some subtle differences.
The lights are different on the radar mast as well as the anchorlight/main mast.

Looks like something from an early Bond, James Bond flick! She's ready to run the gaunlet dropping drums of fuel off the stern to turn into makeshift floating bombs!
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I have seen some boats hauled out and glassed. Theysand thee hull back to fresh wood. Then make repairs and clean out the joints. They finish up by using a seam compound that stays soft. Then encapsulate the hull in two or three layers of 6 to 10 ounce fiberglass cloth and epoxy. It will take paint or UV stable stains and varnishes. Of course, not all hulls lend themselves to this type of treatment. Lapped joints being one of them.
I've always been told that's about the worst thing to do to a sound hull
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I've always been told that's about the worst thing to do to a sound hull
That's called "cold-lam" in marine world vernacular. It could be just OK and it could be real bad... greatly depending as to how the fiberglass laminate procedure was enacted and finalized. Personally, I do not like cold-lam building technique for boats.

Three reasons...

1. Promotes rot in wood between the fiberglass and the wood where water enters due to any # of reasons. And, that rot is not seen until it goes all the way through the wood. Repairing it correctly is a task for sure; that includes wood and fiberglass repair work.
2. Adds great extra weight to the boat when applied as thick as is actually, correctly needed.
3. It's still a wood boat - with one side of the hull no longer available for inspection, refastening or repairs - plain and simple!

If you want a fiberglass boat - then get a fiberglass boat. Want a wood boat - get a wood boat. But, to intertwine the two regarding hull-laminate purposes is simply not good business - IMO!!!
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I have built timber/epoxy boats before, usually western red cedar strip and double bias and epoxy on BOTH sides.
Produces a stiff, light structure and pretty trouble free if dings are repaired in a timely manner.
Western red cedar, various pines and spruces, balsa, pawlonia all like epoxy.

For what we have now, the timber is 2 inch thick spotted gum which is pretty common species in caulked timber vessels.
It really is not a great timber for glassing, its oily nature does not hold resin that well.
Of course you can and many do use a solvent thinned resin to aid adhesion but it seems eventually they have problems as the planks expand/contract and seams move and for that reason I would not glass 1 side only of any timber boat even if it did like epoxy.
But thats me.
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You're probably right. I've seen it done the way I describe to good and bad hulls. I have also watched a thread many years ago on Wooden Boat forum where a guy removed all the glass and epoxy from a good hull. It was a mess and took months of heating, scraping, and grinding to get back to wood.
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Remove everything down to the deck, turn it over, repair the hull and you have a plug for a fiber glass hull.
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Remove everything down to the deck, turn it over, repair the hull and you have a plug for a fiber glass hull.
I have seen boats that have been done that way. I didn't witness the process only the completed boat.
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Old 09-14-2018, 04:35 PM   #6059
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Ok....so I have too much time on my hands....

Maybe some work was done , but there are some subtle differences.


Looks like the same boat, the biggest difference being the pilot house windows - but that could be explained by the pilot house door being slid 1/2 open. Nice boat (or boats) all the same.
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Looks like the same boat, the biggest difference being the pilot house windows - but that could be explained by the pilot house door being slid 1/2 open. Nice boat (or boats) all the same.
The swin platform looked longer in one too....but that could have been modified. Odds are, given the age and uniqueness of the boat, its the same. This is not a 13 foot Boston Whaler we are talking about.
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