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Old 12-17-2017, 10:06 AM   #4761
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Another nice looking one

1994 Custom Build Trawler, Fort Lauderdale Florida - boats.com

Furniture in the salon are not my style and not reflecting boat style either in my sense but it is a detail.
However I love the engine room and the workbench!

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I spoke to the listing agent for that boat...I donít remember the details, but there is a good reason it has been listed for a few years now...I seem to remember him telling me it was not suitable for lengthy passages and long range..odd for sure..We talked about Seline being more suitable KK etc...
I remember being a little confused by what I was hearing, because so many things seemed right about that boat in the written description..something is misleading in the copy..
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Interesting boats

Thatís strange. The boat seems to be set up for long distance cruising with the big fuel tanks, well thought out engine room & paravanes, but then again the furniture in the salon doesnít seem right for offshore cruising.

Obviously the owner who had the boat built never really cruised the boat much with only 500 hours.
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Old 12-17-2017, 10:33 AM   #4763
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Thatís strange. The boat seems to be set up for long distance cruising with the big fuel tanks, well thought out engine room & paravanes, but then again the furniture in the salon doesnít seem right for offshore cruising.

I think I read that the owner who had the boat built never really cruised the boat much?
Iím going to try to dig up the email, it was awhile ago and yea, something is off, not sure what it is..
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Yeah Iíd like to see the email. This boat is a mystery!
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I spoke to the listing agent for that boat...I donít remember the details, but there is a good reason it has been listed for a few years now...I seem to remember him telling me it was not suitable for lengthy passages and long range..odd for sure..We talked about Seline being more suitable KK etc...
I remember being a little confused by what I was hearing, because so many things seemed right about that boat in the written description..something is misleading in the copy..
I too want to know the reason. Perhaps a design or construction error?
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:10 PM   #4766
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The beam is quite narrow for the length of the boat. I would expect it to be quite rolly. But then again it has paravanes so.......?
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The beam is quite narrow for the length of the boat. I would expect it to be quite rolly. But then again it has paravanes so.......?
I'd be looking to see if active stabilizers could be installed.
This paravane fish have been known to jump out of the water and do damage.
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Old 12-18-2017, 03:12 PM   #4768
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Only if you run the fish too shallow.
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Old 12-18-2017, 04:55 PM   #4769
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Only if you run the fish too shallow.
And wave height and period.
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interesting boats - interesting bow

this boat has a different bow from others
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Old 12-22-2017, 05:16 AM   #4771
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this boat has a different bow from others
Hi, yes X-bow is very smoty hig seas, look video



What if you continue to work on your boat and build an x-bow, I think you had a good project just installing Hull wings to reduce the role. My NT missed an X-bow it's such a wet ride to the waves

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Old 12-22-2017, 09:09 AM   #4772
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Xbow seems to perform well in 20'/25' waves.

Wonder what happens in 50'/60'ers?

Also wonder what effect Xbow design has for fuel economy or increase, with or without rough seas??


And the [boat design] beat goes on!
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What is an X bow?
Are you thinking about an Axe bow?
I think not as I don’t see an Axe bow.
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Old 12-22-2017, 10:28 AM   #4774
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Reminds me of the sub from the movie "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen".

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Xbow seems to perform well in 20'/25' waves.

Wonder what happens in 50'/60'ers?

Also wonder what effect Xbow design has for fuel economy or increase, with or without rough seas??


And the [boat design] beat goes on!
Hi

In rough ocean fuel consumption will certainly be a big difference between the x-bow advantage. The smooth sea just the X-bow does not make a difference. Believe me the x-bow makes longer LWL and replaces the bulbi consumption by the difference and rarely the big sea is smooth. This invention was first launched in 2005 and is the company ULSTEIN X-BOWģ


I think it's fine to do even in the bigger wave, think about the shape of the bow and its bow displacemets that gives it a huge boost up(Buoyancy-the archimede's law) can slightly spray it on the windows




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I'd add an "Xbow" appendage onto our 34' Tolly... But I'd keep bumping into things at dock area! LOL


Great place to store contraband!!
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Am I the only one who thinks the X-Bow is just plain ugly?

I've heard all about the benefits, and they've been proven in all kinds of offshore support vessels, so I know I can't win that debate. Still...yuck!
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I'd add an "Xbow" appendage onto our 34' Tolly... But I'd keep bumping into things at dock area! LOL


Great place to store contraband!!
Ah yes, and that is the first place the USCG search first.
Then they put divers in the water to inspect the hull for "attachments"
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Strange they call this an X bow.
All it is is a typical bow w the stem raked aft like a canoe.
The Axe bow (I have no pic) has a plumb or vertical stem and the bottom of the stem is usually the deepest part of the hull. Extremely deep V fwd, quite flat aft.

Capt. Tom,
You just don’t like unusual things. I’d label it “odd” looking. Not particularly ugly. But I don’t think it’s appearance is important.
It makes the bow lighter and that would lift the bow up when plunging at/into a big sea. Makes more sense to me than the bulbous bow. And Capt Tom the X is better looking than the bulb.
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Old 12-22-2017, 12:06 PM   #4780
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this boat has a different bow from others
I'm a bit embarrassed to have my name on that boat
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