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Old 12-05-2016, 11:07 AM   #3761
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Material "Strongall" (= thick aluminium), from "Meta Chantier Naval" yard (in Tarare small town, north of Lyon town)
- Sweet trawler 36 (SD hull up to 9.5kn):
Meta Chantier Naval » SWEET TRAWLER 36

- Jolly 26 : one is for sale (ask photos to yard), boat on construction (owner had to stop his project), planning hull (engine>100hp), narrow side-decks (was mostly for river cruising), here is drawing:
Meta Chantier Naval » JOLLY BOAT


- (Brouns architect) MiniTroll 27: one Motor-Sailer (2 keels) with lay-out done I presume (in Normandy) is for sale, here is how she looks:
Meta Chantier Naval » MINITROLL 27
Thanks for those links, some very interesting French designs in alloy. The Jolly looks like it might have potential.
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Old 12-05-2016, 11:09 AM   #3762
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Glen L 31 foot Union Jack can be built out of steel. Our 32 foot Eagle is the fiberglass version of the Union Jack. The Union Jack probably can be stretched about 10%.
Very pretty design, but unfortunately too heavy to plane.
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Old 12-05-2016, 11:12 AM   #3763
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I second the idea of the Mini-Troll by JP Brouns. JP is a great designer and his boats are well engineered, META is a reputable yard.
JP is also a friend.
BTW, I am the designer of the TW28 and I would not compare her to a production fiberglass boat plus, epoxy is much nicer to work with than polyester.
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Old 12-05-2016, 12:52 PM   #3764
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I second the idea of the Mini-Troll by JP Brouns. JP is a great designer and his boats are well engineered, META is a reputable yard.
JP is also a friend.
BTW, I am the designer of the TW28 and I would not compare her to a production fiberglass boat plus, epoxy is much nicer to work with than polyester.
Jacquesm, nice you know JP Brouns!

I know him since the eighties, I was living in the Ardche (dept) mountain not far from his small village.

Still looking for my next classic small river-boat...
His Mini-Troll would be nice, but the one for sale (MS) has got 2 bildge (side) keels 1m draft -> not so well for canal.
Is your TW28 design that was enlarged 2 ft to draw and build the grp production boat TW30 built in Turkey? (I was told quite recently they had to stop her building / political problems).
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Yes, that Turkish yard was producing my designs without paying the royalties, more a legal problem than a "political" one.. I designed a lengthened version for them.
I am also working on a version with a longer pilothouse, shorter cockpit, galley upstairs.
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Old 12-05-2016, 02:26 PM   #3766
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I second the idea of the Mini-Troll by JP Brouns. JP is a great designer and his boats are well engineered, META is a reputable yard.
JP is also a friend.
BTW, I am the designer of the TW28 and I would not compare her to a production fiberglass boat plus, epoxy is much nicer to work with than polyester.
Conratulations on a fabulous design.

Ive only built a tiny ply dighy in stich and glue; no problem with the epoxy and the stiching process, but sanding the flat surfaces took for ever and created very nasty dusty working conditions. Unless you have a heated dehumidified shed the building season is limited to the late spring/ summer period which is why some of these projects take so many years to complete .

I can't conceive what it would be like sanding several hundred square ft of hull and superstructure.
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Old 12-05-2016, 03:39 PM   #3767
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Looks nice to my eyes.
Don't know about the design.
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Old 12-05-2016, 04:23 PM   #3768
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Looks nice to my eyes.
Don't know about the design.
Haha...you must not hang around here much. That's Mark Pierce Coot.
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Old 12-05-2016, 04:36 PM   #3769
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Looks nice to my eyes.
Don't know about the design.
Not too bad a design I suppose, but the yellow roof...
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Old 12-05-2016, 04:36 PM   #3770
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Haha...you must not hang around here much. That's Mark Pierce Coot.
not much, you're right!
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Not too bad a design I suppose, but the yellow roof...

The yellow paint is where the flybridge was
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Old 12-07-2016, 08:58 PM   #3773
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Swoon. That's a stunning conversion!

I want it, but I just spent my last million on lotto tickets. [emoji41]
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The yellow paint is where the flybridge was
The builder (Seahorse Marine, in China) now offers a flybridge option. (The option is a waste of money, IMO.)
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The builder (Seahorse Marine, in China) now offers a flybridge option. (The option is a waste of money, IMO.)

At least it would cover up the yellow paint
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I like the yellow paint.
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I like the yellow paint.
Makes the boat visible to rescuers when the single engine breaks down.
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The yellow paint is where the flybridge was
Massive virility compensation was made, however, in the Coot's aggressive forward raked windshield and intimidating oversized mast.
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Mark,
We shouldn't ever have mentioned fly bridges.
But my Willy was even a bigger mistake.
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But my Willy was even a bigger mistake.
Only on TF can you write that sentence with a straight face...
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