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Old 04-09-2016, 11:16 AM   #3301
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Get building; the plans and cutting files are only $1400.

Over 100 hulls already built: impressive!
Wonder the cost if I hired workers into my company - specifically for building this boat, with me 50% of build-time on active duty too??

Let's say average for on-site hired persons doing 40 hr. weeks (in CA U.S.): One do-it / hands-on build manager $2K per wk., two craftsmen $3.5K per wk., two smart helpers $1.5K per wk. Estimate weekly cost = $7K per wk. all inclusive for hired help. My time at 50% on site (20 hrs. a week) equivalents to $2K sweat equity = total labor cost $9K weekly. Total out of my pocket $7K weekly. Workers paid going rate value at salary and/or hourly wage.

Lets say we can build it complete in 13 months: 56 wks x $7K = $392K (my sweet equity = $112K)

Yard to build it in and xtra costs such as shipping etc, etc = $30K

How much do parts cost, inclusive engine etc... $350K to $400K??

That would mean (calculating on high $ide at first blush): For $822K Boat would be ready for splash. Add in my $112K SE and it costs bit under $1M - in CA, U.S. that is...

Soooo - How much is boat value once fully completed and all bugs worked out - $1.5M / 1.75M / $2M???

Sippen coffee and just wondering!
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Old 04-09-2016, 11:36 AM   #3302
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Wonder the cost if I hired workers into my company - specifically for building this boat, with me 50% of build-time on active duty too??

Let's say average for on-site hired persons doing 40 hr. weeks (in CA U.S.): One do-it / hands-on build manager $2K per wk., two craftsmen $3.5K per wk., two smart helpers $1.5K per wk. Estimate weekly cost = $7K per wk. all inclusive for hired help. My time at 50% on site (20 hrs. a week) equivalents to $2K sweat equity = total labor cost $9K weekly. Total out of my pocket $7K weekly. Workers paid going rate value at salary and/or hourly wage.

Lets say we can build it complete in 13 months: 56 wks x $7K = $392K (my sweet equity = $112K)

Yard to build it in and xtra costs such as shipping etc, etc = $30K

How much do parts cost, inclusive engine etc... $350K to $400K??

That would mean (calculating on high $ide at first blush): For $822K Boat would be ready for splash. Add in my $112K SE and it costs bit under $1M - in CA, U.S. that is...

Soooo - How much is boat value once fully completed and all bugs worked out - $1.5M / 1.75M / $2M???

Sippen coffee and just wondering!
Have a look here for exact figures for finished hull, or ready cut kit for home welding.

Similar length boat, steel, but different shape : €62k finished hull/superstructure ready for engines/paint.... Click on PDF button to get kit prices: €26k for 11 tons cut steel.

https://www.bonitoboats.eu/bonito_bo...ito_46_fo.html

Not so out of reach...second hand engines/gboxes, industrial bridge Epoxy paint etc etc

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Old 04-09-2016, 11:54 AM   #3303
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TF forum member vonovik is about to build this Bruce Robets design.

Lovely lines; proper pilot house trawler.






Reminds me a bit of those beautiful Watson 60' explorer yachts...



...but $3m cheaper!
Didn't TF member Conal just build that Bruce Roberts design and start cruising it?
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Old 04-09-2016, 12:42 PM   #3304
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Didn't TF member Conal just build that Bruce Roberts design and start cruising it?
Aha, I think you're right; it looks like the same boat in his avatar.
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I believe pics #'s 1&2 in the above post are photos of Conall's boat or a very near sister ship.
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Old 04-09-2016, 01:09 PM   #3306
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I believe pics #'s 1&2 in the above post are photos of Conall's boat or a very near sister ship.
He must have all the build data and costs ...
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Old 04-09-2016, 05:49 PM   #3307
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45' (I think) home built steel Seaton design "Jim Dandy" 671 Detroit dry stack ,Green Turtle Bay today .
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Old 04-09-2016, 06:48 PM   #3308
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45' (I think) home built steel Seaton design "Jim Dandy" 671 Detroit dry stack ,Green Turtle Bay today .

Sweet lines.
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Old 04-10-2016, 06:36 PM   #3309
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Steel 42 MTR catamaran, with real helicopter.



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Old 04-11-2016, 02:01 PM   #3310
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Wow - that is one BIG cat.

Speaking of larger boats - here is a larger trawler (actually a converted trawler) that seems like a reasonable approach if you want more room. 91 feet long, 300 hp engine, and well kept - all for 900K Euros.

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Metz Roode - Metz - For Sale | Van der Vliet Quality Yachts - Yacht Broker - Used Boats for Sale

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Here a well designed a comfortable boat having the look and feel of the 20's:

Pacific Motor Boat 48 | Pacific Motor Boat Design

http://pacificmotorboat.com/clientfiles/535/pmb48.jpg
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Here a well designed a comfortable boat having the look and feel of the 20's:

Pacific Motor Boat 48 | Pacific Motor Boat Design

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That's a cool website. Neat looking designs.
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Old 04-13-2016, 05:16 PM   #3313
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Here a well designed a comfortable boat having the look and feel of the 20's:

Pacific Motor Boat 48 | Pacific Motor Boat Design

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Now, THAT'S a pretty boat!
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Conrad 58

Here's a good looking little steel ship I came across earlier today:



Here's the link for those who want to see the specs on this beauty:

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Old 04-13-2016, 08:45 PM   #3315
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Maybe that's what my Willard wants to be when she grows up.

Anchor dosn't look up to the job.
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Old 04-13-2016, 09:04 PM   #3316
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Here's a good looking little steel ship I came across earlier today:



Here's the link for those who want to see the specs on this beauty:

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You're gonna get another anchor debate going!! LOL


Nice looking boat with fly bridge - what's not to love?? Oh yeah - the anchor!
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This thing is starting to grow on me but it's steel . It could use some wood on it somewhere to take the edge off . I've been aboard it a couple years ago . The engine room is huge .
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Marty: That's the most rigging are Gerber seen on any boat anywhere!
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Marty: That's the most rigging are Gerber seen on any boat anywhere!
Sorry Larry I know it's a bad picture . Here is one without so much rigging .
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Sorry Larry I know it's a bad picture . Here is one without so much rigging .

I like that boat!
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