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08-23-2017, 04:18 PM
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Back to the OP for a moment. If it's not within your personal comfort zone of something you are comfortable doing, then don't. Get another slip or wait for better conditions or go to a different marina. I know someone who didn't use their boat for four months because they were scared of getting out of and then back into their slip.
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08-23-2017, 04:43 PM
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Cant change slips w/o paying a change fee, which is BS since they added the dock behind me w/o notice, but theres nothing I can do about it other than leave the marina after the annual lease is up.
I can dock it, its just a PITA compared to when we had a straight run into the slip.
Regarding a spring line, I have no piling to use. Just a floating dock finger on both sides, and neither side have a cleat. Cant add one either since its a concrete dock surface.
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08-23-2017, 04:53 PM
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#43
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Senior Member
City: Houston
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No piling or cleat? Did the dock installers miss that detail? Is that true of all the slips? How do you keep the boat from banging around in the slip?
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08-23-2017, 04:57 PM
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Not all slips are setup this way. But when we had a straight shot in, I didnt mind much.
Midship and aft cleats (all the way into the slip).
So stern lines to opposite corner cleats, and midship to stern cleats.
Fenders or course.
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08-23-2017, 05:00 PM
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General docking question
Obviously no lines are stopping it from going further into the slip; just the fenders. Its not been much of an issue, just a worry.
Just the same, lease end will be a welcome time.
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08-23-2017, 05:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FutureLooper
Obviously no lines are stopping it from going further into the slip; just the fenders. Its not been much of an issue, just a worry.
Just the same, lease end will be a welcome time.
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I have never known a marina that wouldn't allow an existing slip holder to move to another empty slip during a lease period. In my mind, that's just someone too lazy to handle it. Sure, they'd have to adjust price and notify accounting and get a different lease signed. However, it's called customer service.
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08-23-2017, 05:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB
I have never known a marina that wouldn't allow an existing slip holder to move to another empty slip during a lease period. In my mind, that's just someone too lazy to handle it. Sure, they'd have to adjust price and notify accounting and get a different lease signed. However, it's called customer service.
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Except if the marina is fully booked like mine and marina must toss a monthly payer to favor an annual one
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08-23-2017, 06:08 PM
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Any marina developer that doesn't have fairways at least 1.5 times the lengths of berths is due for ... criticism.
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08-23-2017, 06:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lou_tribal
Except if the marina is fully booked like mine and marina must toss a monthly payer to favor an annual one
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Note that I said "empty slip."
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08-23-2017, 06:18 PM
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I think if the slips are parallel the minimum is the beam of your boat and if perpendicular the LOA
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08-23-2017, 06:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
Any marina developer that doesn't have fairways at least 1.5 times the lengths of berths is due for ... criticism.
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Yes, but if people keep leasing slips, he really doesn't care.
A marina has a limited space to work within. Their goal is to maximize revenues within that space. Unfortunately, without regulations like Australia has, that leads to some lousy configurations. Also, without regulations that tempts them to put longer boats in the slips.
In the example I used earlier I mentioned a 113' boat in an 80' slip. That was at a marina charging $45 per month. $17,000 per year additional revenue is why they do it.
You see some marinas in our area packed beyond anything reasonable. Boats that can't get out unless another boat is moved.
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08-23-2017, 06:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB
Note that I said "empty slip."
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Indeed, my poor English reading skills made me skip this word
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08-23-2017, 06:32 PM
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City: Vallejo CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB
You see some marinas in our area packed beyond anything reasonable. Boats that can't get out unless another boat is moved.
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An absurd situation unless wants to permanently park/abandon their boat.
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08-23-2017, 06:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
An absurd situation unless wants to permanently park/abandon their boat.
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I would hope there is some sort of legality that could be applied against that marina along the lines of them preventing tenants from having ready access/use of their boat.
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08-23-2017, 10:21 PM
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#55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lou_tribal
Indeed, my poor English reading skills made me skip this word
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I occasionally skip words and can't blame it on second language.
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08-23-2017, 10:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FutureLooper
I would hope there is some sort of legality that could be applied against that marina along the lines of them preventing tenants from having ready access/use of their boat.
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No, they help them all get out. They aren't a regular marina though, service, sales and other. Let me find a regular marina almost as bad.
Here's typical.
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08-23-2017, 11:17 PM
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City: Houston
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In the overhead photo,
it (almost) looks like with say, 15% fewer boats, they could all be reorganized to line up on just one side in each fairway. Leaving an open lane to get in and out. The largest yachts could be out at the ends.
Maybe I just like puzzles.
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08-23-2017, 11:19 PM
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#58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CDreamer
In the overhead photo,
it (almost) looks like with say, 15% fewer boats, they could all be reorganized to line up on just one side in each fairway. Leaving an open lane to get in and out. The largest yachts could be out at the ends.
Maybe I just like puzzles.
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No doubt with 15% fewer boats but their goal is more boats, not fewer.
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08-23-2017, 11:25 PM
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#59
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Senior Member
City: Houston
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I know. I just hate disorganization and even though it's not a normal marina it seems like it's unnecessarily inefficient.
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08-24-2017, 05:55 AM
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#60
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The key is,
"As mentioned in a prior post, some days it's impossible."
Gethomeitis is dangerous.
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