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Old 05-20-2022, 11:58 PM   #1
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KK42 Top Deck Issue and "Ribs"

I have some soft spots in the upper deck on my 1985 KK42 upper deck and will need to open that up. I am guessing that is a plywood core? And the "ribs" that are visible in the cabin - those are formed in fiberglass and not wood cored? If you have gone through this process, photos would be incredibly helpful.
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Old 05-21-2022, 08:18 AM   #2
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John: I no longer have the core samples but Hobo’s (#120) boat deck it had non-skid on fiberglass over 3/4” or 5/8” plywood. Under that was the molded headliner for the salon.

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When I repaired mine I had 3/4" plywood squares about 4"x4" between the top and bottom layers of glass.
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Thanks Larry and Scott. That's more or less what I thought. The fiberglass guys thought there might be wooden beams in the molded headliner. I didn't think so.

Larry - good to see you still on the Forum. My neighbor, who was interested in Hobo, is still talking about how is missed the chance . . . he bought a Selene and is now working through a lot of poorly maintained systems.
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Larry,


You may want to look at the drawing for the deck construction.
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Hull 61 has wood beams, but beneath the fiberglass inner skin of upper deck. I will try to post pics tomorrow
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Old 05-23-2022, 12:33 PM   #8
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Scott - looked at the photos on you website. Incredibly helpful and I have book-marked the site for future projects (like the bow pulpit and removal of teak decks). A huge thank you for your meticulous documentation.
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John, glad you found them. I was trying to attach pics from a more recent repair around hatch area, but pics must be too big.
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Had my top redone and it was just plywood squares.
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I have some soft spots in the upper deck on my 1985 KK42 upper deck and will need to open that up. I am guessing that is a plywood core? And the "ribs" that are visible in the cabin - those are formed in fiberglass and not wood cored? If you have gone through this process, photos would be incredibly helpful.
Wood and Fiber. I will send you pics when I can. Entire upper deck replaced.
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Hi Guys you folks have some real KK42 experience.
have any of you seen a deck like this , its a boat forsale on ebay , maybe owner is here too?
but this deck on an early 1977 looks like entire teak and of course it leaks.

listing for information not promotion.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw...at+used&_sop=3
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Hi Guys you folks have some real KK42 experience.
have any of you seen a deck like this , its a boat forsale on ebay , maybe owner is here too?
but this deck on an early 1977 looks like entire teak and of course it leaks.

listing for information not promotion.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw...at+used&_sop=3
cheers waren
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The listing seems to be gone. That looks like a wooden boat not a KK42 (note the wooden gunwales)
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Link worked for me, 2nd boat on page. Surely looks like a KK42, decks look awful, and a lot of them. Listing says fibreglass hull. A "project" for sure. Won`t a KK that vintage have a cored hull?
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This boat has been around for awhile, with sale prices dropping every year. It was a POS when I looked at it in 2014 for a customer.
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Re all teak deck

Defiantly a KK42, I emailed over about it , listing says 1977 so a very early boat and with twin engines. Did KK make initially a single and twin to evaluate owner preference?
The deck does appear to be all wood , but the deck is basically a wood deck with some fiberglass under the Teak.
Boat is in Deale Md. only 3 hrs away but not right for me at moment. Owner says he will keep if it does not sell and it will be his retirement project.
I not surprised to hear it has been on and off market for a while . Boats of this age are always work
BUT. I just hear that a couple that I used to race against in small boats in 90s, they bought a while ago now a Kk42 new apparently for something in the $1.2M range.
My point being putting real money , say $250k into repairs would not be such a bad thing if it got you a good boat to use for 10-15 yrs.
heres photo of old boat
Thanks for your comments guys .
I will say the thing that confuses me sometimes about the KK42 ( and surprisingly many similar) is the lack of a second cabin for guests. Even something small .
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For sure a foam cored hull , but that’s still a fiberglass hull , just not a solid laminate below waterline hull! ��Warren
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Just remember... Inexpensive boats usually cost the most......Read that again...
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If youre really really really good at boat systems, Id snatch it up if the following conditions were met:

1) dry hull below the waterline (yes cored)

2) can move under its own power

It reads as if it needs to be gutted and then a full refit.

Expecting it to price out for sale at a million seems very optimistic. A KK42 that is in fully working condition can be had in the $250s. Even with the twins I wouldnt expect it to go above $300.

With the criteria above, the real question is capital and commitment. Id have at least $50-100k on hand to start the refit.

Just my 2 pennies.

(If I didnt have my 43 Tradewinds and the criterium above was met, Id bring it to FL and embark on the dream.)
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