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11-27-2021, 12:04 AM
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City: Perth Western Australia
Join Date: Nov 2021
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New Member from Perth Western Australai
Hello Everyone my name is Robin. I am 65 years of age and are now semi retired from my Architectural Design business. I have joined this forum as I have now decided to purchase a GB 55' Alaskan, price and availability permitting, and thought it would be most prudent to seek advice from those who know as I have not owned a large vessel previously. I have admired the 55' Alaskan greatly over the years and are now saving my pennies to be able to get one. I will want to undertake some alterations on the vessel, however, I am finding it very difficult to acquire any existing layouts, profile drawings or brochures online or indeed anywhere. GB or even their representatives in Australia don't seem to be very helpful either. Has anyone got any suggestions of where I may try? Thank you, Merry Christmas and fair weather sailing to you all. I hope to join you on the water in about 2 years, regards Robin.
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11-27-2021, 01:10 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 15,410
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Welcome aboard. For some cursory info and layouts maybe check out Power Boat Guide. Not in depth details but some place to start. Yachtworld is another place to look if there happen to be any for sale. However their website is not as easy to navigate as it used to be. Good luck.
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11-27-2021, 01:31 AM
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Member
City: Perth Western Australia
Join Date: Nov 2021
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Thank you for your response. I'll look at Power Boat Guide now. Also, I agree Yacht world isn't what it use to be is it. Regards Robin.
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11-27-2021, 01:37 AM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Welcome Aboard Robin. I suspect the GB55 Alaskan may be a rarity in Australia. No longer built it appears,a pilothouse seems a priority, you may need to widen your search, but it`s early days.
To my knowledge, we have just one Australian TF member associated with a larger GB, a 52. You`ll have seen the Aleutian for sale (POA), seems that`s as close as it gets for now. Good luck with your enquiries and search.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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11-27-2021, 05:30 AM
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Member
City: Perth Western Australia
Join Date: Nov 2021
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Yes, I think you are right. No chance of getting a 55' in Australia and an Aleutian is beyond my budget unfortunately. The problem I see is "Can you put a Wooden Hull vessel, bought overseas, on a Boat and transport it to Australia or does this way of transportation cause drying out problems with the Hull". Thank you for your comments, BruceK. Regards Robin.
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11-27-2021, 09:41 AM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116
Join Date: Oct 2017
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wood hull and exterior teak? No thanks.
I suspect you can better boat closer to you
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11-27-2021, 01:52 PM
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Senior Member
City: Hernando Beach
Vessel Model: Looking
Join Date: Aug 2015
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G'day Robin:
"Can you put a Wooden Hull vessel, bought overseas, on a Boat and transport it to Australia or does this way of transportation cause drying out problems with the Hull?"
I would imagine (based on my experience forty years ago with two dried-out, leaky, unsafe wood hulls) that drying out could be one of several problems associated with ship-transporting an old large wooden hull to Australia.
You've got guts wanting to buy an older wood hull. I'm with Old Dan; if I wanted to throw my time and money overboard, I'd buy an old wood hull boat.
But my opinion is based largely upon my age, which is the same as yours. A younger me had the time and energy to spend on maintenance and refit. It was fun! Now I prefer to spend my "boat time" cruising.
Cheers and Good Luck,
Mrs. Trombley
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11-27-2021, 02:16 PM
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Senior Member
City: Cairns
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 427
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Given the current insurance climate can you insure your choice once it arrives in Australia?
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11-27-2021, 06:28 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Sadly Robin, posts regarding importing a large older wooden boat are correct. The last Alaskan for sale I remember was in Qld, at about $300,000, and took years to sell. Online boating sites like www.boatsonline.com.au at boats 50ft>, will show what is available and how they are configured.
There are some large Island Gypsy boats (of Halvorsen origin),sometimes with pilothouse(PH), which are attractive, but one I saw in Sydney being repaired after sinking was built of meranti. Their interiors are stunning, a spiral staircase connects the decks. Later ones may be fibreglass.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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11-27-2021, 07:21 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Greetings,
Welcome aboard, mate. I agree with the previous posts. Don't do it. I understand there IS a domestic (AUS) market for used timber vessels. Given the variety of numerous potential problems with importing, you might be better to spend your pennies on customizing a more readily available boat.
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11-27-2021, 07:58 PM
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 4,157
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Plenty of good timber boats getting around in Oz, no need to bring one in.
Probably more robust build as well.
But have you got any good timber guys in Perth?
That's a question you should get an answer to first.
Oh and welcome. (-;
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11-28-2021, 08:30 PM
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Member
City: Perth Western Australia
Join Date: Nov 2021
Posts: 7
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Hello Everyone. Thank you for your valuable comments. I have a lot to consider. It just may be that the GB 55' will have to be replaced with something else that is available more readily in AUS. Thanks again Regards Robin.
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11-28-2021, 08:42 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Juneau
Vessel Name: Sea Dog
Vessel Model: DeFever 49 Raised Pilothouse
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 48
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There’s an old 49’ Alaskan for sale in Alaska, might have a similar layout if a bit smaller:
https://www.alaskaboatbrokers.com/bo...85-boatid=2890
If you want a pilothouse boat with a similar layout in fiberglass you might look at a Defever. The Defever 49 was essentially a GB Alaskan in fiberglass (Art Defever designed the GB Alaskan) and there are some larger versions out there.
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11-28-2021, 10:41 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, (Australia), now Bribie Island, Qld
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueMoon1975
There’s an old 49’ Alaskan for sale in Alaska, might have a similar layout if a bit smaller:
https://www.alaskaboatbrokers.com/bo...85-boatid=2890
If you want a pilothouse boat with a similar layout in fiberglass you might look at a Defever. The Defever 49 was essentially a GB Alaskan in fiberglass (Art Defever designed the GB Alaskan) and there are some larger versions out there.
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Ah....the Perth in question is in Australia. Were you aware of that..?
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11-28-2021, 10:42 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Juneau
Vessel Name: Sea Dog
Vessel Model: DeFever 49 Raised Pilothouse
Join Date: Aug 2021
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Yes I was aware of that. OP was inquiring about the layout of the boat and that listing has a lot of photos and I thought it might be helpful.
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11-28-2021, 10:48 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, (Australia), now Bribie Island, Qld
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueMoon1975
Yes I was aware of that. OP was inquiring about the layout of the boat and that listing has a lot of photos and I thought it might be helpful.
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OK. ☝️ Good thought that.
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11-28-2021, 11:10 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
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To be fair, I`m not entirely sure Perth, or "Western Australia" generally, is still "in Australia".  We still can`t go there, and if the OP came to the east, I`m unsure he could return.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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11-29-2021, 05:32 AM
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Member
City: Perth Western Australia
Join Date: Nov 2021
Posts: 7
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Thanks Guys. I'll definitely have a look at the Defevers and the Alaskan site has plenty of photos to for me to browse over. Thank you both. I was unaware that Defever designed the Alaskans. I had always assumed Tony Fleming had designed them before he left and started Fleming Yachts. BK I think you have a devious sense of humor which I am just starting to appreciate. I'm beginning to think our Premier in WA is a secret secessionist. Thanks again, Regards Robin.
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11-29-2021, 10:07 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Juneau
Vessel Name: Sea Dog
Vessel Model: DeFever 49 Raised Pilothouse
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 48
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In case you’re interested, here is a nice summary of a lot of Defever designs:
https://www.defevercruisers.com/defever_designs.asp
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11-29-2021, 10:22 AM
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Member
City: Perth Western Australia
Join Date: Nov 2021
Posts: 7
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Thanks BM75. I am really interested in the Defevers. I had a quick look this afternoon and I think you have solved my problem. Great vessels and some at a very affordable price. Regards Robin.
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