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03-07-2013, 08:39 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Port Washington,NY
Vessel Name: Sweet Chariot
Vessel Model: Present 42
Join Date: Mar 2013
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Hello from Long Island NY
Just got a Present 42. Different winter on a boat ! Any suggestions on getting my dog (lab) on the boat when at anchor? We have a swim platform and a 4 step ladder up to the sundeck.
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03-07-2013, 09:02 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Greetings,
Welcome aboard. Diet?
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03-07-2013, 09:28 PM
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Guru
City: Miami Florida
Vessel Name: Possum
Vessel Model: Ellis 28
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Welcome aboard and watch out for RTF. He has a strange sense of humor.
I once was sitting at the top of a six foot aluminum step ladder trimming a tree. The neighbors Lab climbed the ladder and got in my lap! I bet your dog won't have any trouble going from the swim platform up the ladder.
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03-07-2013, 09:45 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Port Washington,NY
Vessel Name: Sweet Chariot
Vessel Model: Present 42
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 25
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Thanks got that impression. Hope the 85lb 8 yo will take to the training. Maybe I can use the davit with some type of harness.
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03-07-2013, 10:27 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,357
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Greetings,
Hmmm......difficult call. When we decided to buy a life preserver for Cruiser (Redbone Coonhound 55lb.) one of the criteria was to be able to lift him up by the handle on the back of the jacket and have him remain level. If you haven't got one already, maybe this may be a "harness" option.
Amazon.com: dog life preservers
Given the intelligence/trainability of Labs it probably would be fairly easy to ladder train but what about when it gets older? 85 lbs. won't get any lighter so, indeed, the davit approach could be the best. Get the dog used to it now so when he/she gets less agile it will be old hat.
The LAST thing you want to do is traumatize the dog or injure him/her if something slips and not knowing exactly what you have to work with that's all I can offer.
Hope this helps.
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03-07-2013, 10:43 PM
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Guru
City: New Bern NC
Vessel Name: Stella Di Mare
Vessel Model: Mainship 34t
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
Hmmm......difficult call. When we decided to buy a life preserver for Cruiser (Redbone Coonhound 55lb.) one of the criteria was to be able to lift him up by the handle on the back of the jacket and have him remain level. If you haven't got one already, maybe this may be a "harness" option.
Amazon.com: dog life preservers
Given the intelligence/trainability of Labs it probably would be fairly easy to ladder train but what about when it gets older? 85 lbs. won't get any lighter so, indeed, the davit approach could be the best. Get the dog used to it now so when he/she gets less agile it will be old hat.
The LAST thing you want to do is traumatize the dog or injure him/her if something slips and not knowing exactly what you have to work with that's all I can offer.
Hope this helps.
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Going up the ladder is not the problem. Coming down is where he will get hurt. 80 lb dogs can't continue to put that kind of force on the pasterns. He will break a leg if you are not careful. Lowering him down with the davit will be the best thing for him. Use a working harness or sometime called a training harness.
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M/V Stella Di Mare
New Bern NC
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03-07-2013, 11:03 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
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Greetings,
Mr. JD. Part of the problem we found with the small selection of training harnesses we had access to was the dogs weight wasn't evenly distributed. We were able to find a life jacket that we felt supported the dog evenly upon lifting. Now we were just testing by hand on the handle and maybe attachment of a carabiner would upset that balance. Too late for us now but for future reference I would be interested in your suggestions.
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03-08-2013, 01:00 AM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Welcome to TF Chris and Roger...
In 50's and 60's LI South Shore was my home port boating area. Traveled all over New England coast and ended up in Maine's Penobscot Bay by end of 60's and into mid 70's. Currently boating in SF Bay/Delta areas and Loven IT!
Happy Boating Daze! - Art
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03-08-2013, 01:15 AM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
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It`s great you want to do this. With luck he/she may be with you 4 years +, so look for a permanent solution, he won`t get fitter with age, and is heavier than some dinghies which get hoisted. Some kind of winch operated hoist platform on vertical rails? Maybe use the existing ladder as a base to construct on. Someone with inventive thoughts and engineering bent should take a look, a sailboat mast rigger would be ideal.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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03-08-2013, 09:26 AM
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Guru
City: Thibodaux, Louisiana
Vessel Name: Gumbo
Vessel Model: 2003 Monk 36
Join Date: Oct 2007
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A Lab! You were lucky he didn't retrive the ladder and bring it home, leaving you " out on a limb"
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03-08-2013, 01:36 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Port Washington,NY
Vessel Name: Sweet Chariot
Vessel Model: Present 42
Join Date: Mar 2013
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Many thanks for the great ideas. will end up using the davit or a block and tackle with some type of sling with front and rear support so he wont slip out.
Thank you for all the warm welcomes wish it could melt some of the snow must have 7+inches today.
does anyone have any ideas for propane mounting. originally on theflybridge in enclosed area under electronics. I looked at containers that were $500-$700. was wondering if a rv type container (only $50) would be enough protection and then were to put it.
Our boat is the aft master cabin with sundeck. will work on getting some pics.
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03-08-2013, 01:47 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,357
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Greetings,
There is a thread somewhere her on propane storage.
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03-08-2013, 01:50 PM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris and Roger
Many thanks for the great ideas. will end up using the davit or a block and tackle with some type of sling with front and rear support so he wont slip out.
Thank you for all the warm welcomes wish it could melt some of the snow must have 7+inches today.
does anyone have any ideas for propane mounting. originally on theflybridge in enclosed area under electronics. I looked at containers that were $500-$700. was wondering if a rv type container (only $50) would be enough protection and then were to put it.
Our boat is the aft master cabin with sundeck. will work on getting some pics.
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Hey guys - Put the word Propane into search feature at page top - More than you can imagine! - Cheers!! - Art
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03-09-2013, 07:36 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Port Washington,NY
Vessel Name: Sweet Chariot
Vessel Model: Present 42
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 25
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OMG you weren't kidding, like saying Niagra Falls.
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03-09-2013, 08:28 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
Mr. JD. Part of the problem we found with the small selection of training harnesses we had access to was the dogs weight wasn't evenly distributed. We were able to find a life jacket that we felt supported the dog evenly upon lifting. Now we were just testing by hand on the handle and maybe attachment of a carabiner would upset that balance. Too late for us now but for future reference I would be interested in your suggestions.
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we are going to try this harness...should get it next week.
Full Body Dog Lifting Harness - 1800PetMeds
may still have to use a spreader bar and two point sling...but I'm betting it will work out nicely if the harness doesn't cut into the dog too bad.
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03-09-2013, 11:26 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Port Washington,NY
Vessel Name: Sweet Chariot
Vessel Model: Present 42
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 25
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Thanks for the harness info. I found one by orvis that looks like it might be less pressure on the groin area. Let me know how yours works out. What kind of a dog is it for ?
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03-09-2013, 11:28 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris and Roger
Thanks for the harness info. I found one by orvis that looks like it might be less pressure on the groin area. Let me know how yours works out. What kind of a dog is it for ?
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70 pound, long bodied, female Golden Retriever.
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03-09-2013, 06:26 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,134
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Securing your propane bottles,depending how you set up,I found a large plastic flower pot saucer which neatly fitted the base of my extra bottle for the bbq/grill, drilled a couple of holes so it could drain water (unlikely), glued it to the floor of the locker,sat the bottle in it, further securing it at the top.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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03-11-2013, 09:30 PM
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Senior Member
City: newfoundland
Vessel Name: E.E.S.
Vessel Model: 38' Northumberland
Join Date: Mar 2013
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I think I'm going to have a slightly "bigger" problem getting my dog aboard
he's 130 lbs
Maybe a ramp would be in order?.
Robbie.
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