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Old 10-31-2017, 12:18 PM   #61
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This, from foxnews.com Holes emerge in Hawaii women's tale of survival in the Pacific | Fox News raises some questions:

"The pair said they thought about turning back, but the islands of Maui and Lanai didn't have harbors deep enough to accommodate their sailboat. At 50 feet long, however, the vessel is relatively small, and both islands have harbors that accommodate boats of that size. Plus, the Big Island the southernmost island in Hawaii has several places to dock. Appel, though, said she modified her sailboat, called the Sea Nymph, by adding six tons of fiberglass to the hull to make it thicker and heavier and extend the keel to a depth of 8.5 feet to give the boat greater stability."


First, where the heck could she have added 6 TONS of FG???? But even if she could, wouldn't enough weight to increase the draft about 3' also have raised the waterline about 3'? The boat doesn't look like it's sitting that low in the water. Or maybe it was and all that FG fell off, which could account for all the growth on the side of the hull.


Their story is getting fishier by the day!
At $2.50-$3.00/lb for materials alone, that is $30-36,000!! Into that boat?
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This, from foxnews.com Holes emerge in Hawaii women's tale of survival in the Pacific | Fox News raises some questions:

"The pair said they thought about turning back, but the islands of Maui and Lanai didn't have harbors deep enough to accommodate their sailboat. At 50 feet long, however, the vessel is relatively small, and both islands have harbors that accommodate boats of that size. Plus, the Big Island the southernmost island in Hawaii has several places to dock. Appel, though, said she modified her sailboat, called the Sea Nymph, by adding six tons of fiberglass to the hull to make it thicker and heavier and extend the keel to a depth of 8.5 feet to give the boat greater stability."


First, where the heck could she have added 6 TONS of FG???? But even if she could, wouldn't enough weight to increase the draft about 3' also have raised the waterline about 3'? The boat doesn't look like it's sitting that low in the water. Or maybe it was and all that FG fell off, which could account for all the growth on the side of the hull.


Their story is getting fishier by the day!
I wonder how much has been misrepresented between the 2 women and the media?

They want to do this trip next year? First they have to find another boat.
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Ship Tragedy : Man Cheats Death--on Land, Sea - latimes

I have not been following the story of these two women very closely but as I and others pointed out from the beginning , their story seemed sketchy. The post on the other forum seems to confirm this. We will find out more later, but the idea of pulling a stunt like this for financial gain, if that is what they did, is beyond words.

31 years ago a class mate from CMA was the 2nd on this 170 ft commercial fishing boat that sank. He spent many days in a life raft, and they buried the Captain at sea. No book deals or personal financial gain was obtained by him to my knowledge.
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31 years ago a class mate from CMA was the 2nd on this 170 ft commercial fishing boat that sank. He spent many days in a life raft, and they buried the Captain at sea. No book deals or personal financial gain was obtained by him to my knowledge.
Sometimes a person does not want to remember.

Many veterans will never talk about what they did or experienced except to maybe other veterans.
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Many veterans will never talk about what they did or experienced except to maybe other veterans.
That wasn't the point I was making.
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That wasn't the point I was making.
The point was, as I understand it, your friend was not interested in revisiting the event.

These women seem to be intent on reliving it and apparently embellishing the experience for their own benefit.
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I wonder how much has been misrepresented between the 2 women and the media?
That's probably part of it, when you have non boater/sailboat reporters who are listening to her explanation and then trying to put it together into a story. They only twist the story even further.

She often says she "built that boat." Then other times it sounds like she was refitting it? I'm not clear on that at all. But when I read that, I thought she was referring to building the boat, reinforcing the hull and adding six tons of ballast to the keel. which would be typical for a sailboat of that size.

There are any number of accounts from governments of Island nations in both the Caribbean and the south seas who have to deal with so called "vagabond boaters." People who read a Jack London or Hemingway novel about living the carefree tropical lifestyle, living off the land, hopping from island to island on a dilapidated sailboat. Many who arrive unannounced with foreign national crews, no documentation for themselves or their boats, usually in disrepair, no money and on the verge of sinking.

I would think the "Vagabond" tag would fit these two ladies as well.
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My car has been repeatedly identified as being outside an Asian massage parlor.
Well, all I can say is if it gets stolen from there, tell the police it was stolen from there.
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This reminds me of the kidnappings that were really she was shacked up with a guy she met for the time.
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Well, all I can say is if it gets stolen from there, tell the police it was stolen from there.
I was thinking to tell them, it was taken from the marina parking lot and left at the Asian massage parlor, repeatedly.
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There are any number of accounts from governments of Island nations in both the Caribbean and the south seas who have to deal with so called "vagabond boaters." People who read a Jack London or Hemingway novel about living the carefree tropical lifestyle, living off the land, hopping from island to island on a dilapidated sailboat. Many who arrive unannounced with foreign national crews, no documentation for themselves or their boats, usually in disrepair, no money and on the verge of sinking.

I would think the "Vagabond" tag would fit these two ladies as well.


In Treasure Cay bahamas there is a fairly significant Haitian population living in the woods. I accidentally drove thru it about 6 years ago looking for an inland blue hole. Several wrecked people freighters around.
I suspect most tourists at the top ten beach a mile away had no idea.
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The point was, as I understand it, your friend was not interested in revisiting the event..
Nope.

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This seems a little odd...... If the mast was still in place, and it seems to be from the pictures.....there ought to have been some way they could have gotten some sort of sail rigged. It might not have been perfect...but they had A LOT of time to work on it. PLUS.....they should have had an epirb.....who in their right mind would undertake a 2800 mile journey without an epirb, a back up GPS, multiple VHF systems....a sat phone.....so many things. They had the foresight to bring a years worth of food...but not an epirb ? Ignorance or stupidity.....not sure it matters.....they are very lucky to be alive.
They had an epirb, but the question remains why it wasn't activated? https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sailors-lo...opstories.html
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Stories are circulating, could be a BS story....investigation to begin..
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6 tons!!! OMG 12 pickup trucks worth!!! ROTFLMAO
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6 tons!!! OMG 12 pickup trucks worth!!! ROTFLMAO
As my old boss used to say when he smelled BS: "That's INCREDIBLE!"
They don't even know how to BS. Make up a more plausible story. Don't have all the equipment to help in a rescue. Smear your faces and bodies with something. At least get sun and wrinkled. Sacrifice your partner so she can be dog food and keep the dogs alive. Break an arm or something. Don't look like you just left the beauty shop and don't talk like nothing happened to you. Don't make up stories of what you did to the boat. You're supposed to appear helpless and lost.
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They have may already accomplished their goal....maybe not exactly the way they wanted...but they are now way more infamous than millions of other boaters with far more knowledge and talent.

I always said to those who thought I could pull something off from hard work and knowledge....that I have a better chance of breaking out from the pack by driving a jet ski backwards to Bermuda.

I would get my 10 minutes of fame and probably a springboard upward somewhere.
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They have may already accomplished their goal....maybe not exactly the way they wanted...but they are now way more infamous than millions of other boaters with far more knowledge and talent.

I always said to those who thought I could pull something off from hard work and knowledge....that I have a better chance of breaking out from the pack by driving a jet ski backwards to Bermuda.

I would get my 10 minutes of fame and probably a springboard upward somewhere.
They've got their fame, but I don't think they'll get their fortune. I think it's all blowing up on them now and don't see any sort of a book deal happening. No one wants to publish a book based on lies. No movie deal for the same reasons. I think they just were not smart enough to pull it off. They'll be in the Hall of Shame.
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Anybody remember the Teignmouth Electron? And her skipper Donald Crowhurst?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teignmouth_Electron

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crowhurst

A very sad story, indeed.
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