Is it legal to throw my old rusted out holding tank overboard offshore? If so how fa

[Seevee]

Originally Posted by psneeld

Just in case out of the box works......

https://www.wholesalemarine.com/seal...-0-gallon.html

965 MSD (Pump Out Only) Portable Toilet- 5 Gallon

Features:

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psneeld,

30 to 50 uses? With a 5 gal holding tank? How can that be, seems like one would need a much larger container for that many uses. What am I missing?

[Seevee]

With all this discussion about crap and stuff, I really think our law makers should come up with better ways to keep our waters clean.

There should be an act preventing fish from peeing and pooping in our waters, and polluting our seas. It should be mandatory for all fish.

For compliance there would be a "fish tank" along side of a docking stating where the fish could do their thing and it would be pumped out for proper disposal. In payment for this facility the price would be we would eat one of the fish every so often.

[roguewave]

sometimes it’s better to just be quiet...

Originally Posted by Benthic2

This was my favorite post.

Sickness and poverty entitle you to some sympathy and help, and maybe even some kind words and good wishes. They do NOT entitle you to break the law, or exempt you from your moral obligation to protect the seas and the planet.

I can't afford a new iphone, so it is OK if I steal one from someone ?

I sprained my ankle and its really inconvenient to walk to the dumpter..can I just throw my trash out of my apartment window...maybe just the paper goods since they'll break down quickly ?

If you really thought it was OK to dump it, you woulnd't have asked the forum.

In 2 minutes of googling I found 4 scrap metal dealers/recyclers located on Marathon.

I'm sorry your finances and health aren't great. I hope they improve. Now go do the right thing.

[Mako]

bigfish, seems like everyone else has an opinion (5 pages worth) on this so let me offer mine:

You are currently faced with serious health circumstances, loss of mobility due to surgery, health issues related to a leaking sewage tank, extreme living conditions due to a severe hurricane which just ravaged your location, etc.

Stop asking a bunch of strangers on a forum for permission for you to make a decision to do what you need in order to survive in bare-minimal comfort. There are too much preaching, holier-than-though ethics, litigious lawyers and armchair sailors here.

I hope you conclude things easily and can go on with comfort and peace.

[psneeld]

Originally Posted by Seevee

psneeld,

30 to 50 uses? With a 5 gal holding tank? How can that be, seems like one would need a much larger container for that many uses. What am I missing?

I didnt write the advertising, but my guess is little to no flush water.

Someone just posted the average daily output of a human and if that was anything accurate, it might be closer to 20 uses, but the claim above was not mine.

[Bigfish]

Thanks for the thought. First, I have offered to pay someone and have had no responses. The boatyards are backed up for weeks, that porta potty will be very awkward for me to get into and out of my kayak as my swimstep was destroyed in the hurricane. A composting toilet would be an option but they're expensive. The leaking hold tank still will need to be removed preferably sooner rather than later. Thanks for the thoughts though. A liesurely calm weather cruise offshore with some friends and plenty of beer for them, as I don't and can't drink, still seems the simplest and cheapest solution to me. What I dump out there will be about equal to ehst a fly craps on your windshield compared to what mother nature just did to thr environment down here.. I happen to be part of nstire too. If a whale can sump tons of shit in the ocean at will, certainly I can add an old relatively benign holding tank to the immense contents of the briny deep without going straight to hell. ..

[psneeld]

Originally Posted by psneeld

Specific gravity calculation maybe?

Any engineers or physicists want to weigh in here?

One did and pointed back to entrained mass....
Sorry .... my bad.

[Sugardog]

Can't believe the question is even asked.

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by Sugardog

Can't believe the question is even asked.

Well, considering that the OP had already decided that was what he was going to do before he asked it, I have to agree with you.

A lot of people's time was wasted and feelings were hurt.

[firstbase]

Originally Posted by cool beans

"Free Scrap Metal for Pickup"

Post that on Craigslist, works every time for me...usually that day

Especially here in Florida. Put the tank on a curb, any curb, and it will be a birdhouse in someones yard by dinner time.

Holding tank. Dinner time. Sorry, my bad.

[BandB]

Originally Posted by WesK

Well, considering that the OP had already decided that was what he was going to do before he asked it.

Makes you wonder why he came here and asked it. He was even offered assistance by one member and didn't even respond to the offer. Yet he cursed those who didn't agree with his course of action. I just hope he has a plan for sinking the tank without sinking his boat as I can't see that getting it out and properly prepared to sink and stay down being an easy task and while it won't do harm on the bottom in deep water, it sure might if it's allowed to surface.

[roguewave]

Originally Posted by WesK

Well, considering that the OP had already decided that was what he was going to do before he asked it, I have to agree with you.

A lot of people's time was wasted and feelings were hurt.

Of course we would never want to hurt ones feelings now would we...

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by BandB

Makes you wonder why he came here and asked it. He was even offered assistance by one member and didn't even respond to the offer. Yet he cursed those who didn't agree with his course of action. I just hope he has a plan for sinking the tank without sinking his boat as I can't see that getting it out and properly prepared to sink and stay down being an easy task and while it won't do harm on the bottom in deep water, it sure might if it's allowed to surface.

Personally, if I was thinking of doing anything illegal or even questionable, I would not publish my intentions on the Internet and I would do it myself if possible so there would be no witnesses.

I wonder sometimes if there's someone at the forum making up some of these posts just to keep the forum active.

[Bigfish]

Who's feelings were hurt? Why is there something wrong with asking the question? And please tell me what you would do if you were in my situation sugardog? Wesk?

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by Bigfish

Who's feelings were hurt? Why is there something wrong with asking the question? And please tell me what you would do if you were in my situation sugardog? Wesk?

I already posted what I would do in your situation. You apparently overlooked my posts.

As for asking the question, it's pretty clear that you had already made up your mind to dump the tank (trash) overboard.

[Bigfish]

"Put the tank on the curb.." Obviously you have not taken the time to read about my circumstances... "Wave a magic wand.." also might work.. First, I have not yet had my stitches removed after having 30% of my liver removed because of a cancerous tumor. Second, My Lady was just recently returned to a mooring ball in Boot Key Harbor in Marathon, Florida which was just destroyed by a category 4 hurricane. I lost my job as a taxi driver here for obvious reasons and I'm in a hotel compliments of FEMA thank God until the 7th. I'm still not comfortable getting into and out of my kayak, my dinghy was destroyed. The harbor is strewn with sunken boats and debris and the city marina is not open and operating yet. Boat yards are cluttered with damaged boats. "Leave the tank at the curb??" Cool, thanks, never thought of that...

[Bigfish]

BandB. Who offered help? I missed it!

[Bigfish]

Maybe I missed what you would do Wesk.. Tell me again...

[psneeld]

Someone also always gives the advice that if you dont like a thread, you dont have to read/ participate in it....and yet here they are....

This place is definitely amusing some days.

Bigfish, I do think someone who lives farther up the Keys or nearby said something about helping.... Planobilly back in post 65 I think.

[rwidman]

Thank You!

Bigfish, you talk about taking friends on a leisurely cruise to dump the tank overboard. Why couldn't those friends take the tank to shore to a recycling facility?

Your logic is illogical.