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Old 08-08-2019, 09:51 AM   #7401
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Art, I agree about the sloping stern/transom whatever it's called surely a following sea could rush up that slope easier than a canoe stern. The other thing was why wasn't the walkway on the portside ?
Although in a mild following sea that slope might give some handling assistance. One thing that bothers me with that severe of a reverse cantor transom slope is that there would be too much chance for a really angry following sea to swamp the boat by breaking in the rear panel to salon.
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Old 08-08-2019, 09:59 AM   #7402
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Aft bottom on the hard makes it look like a following sea would be nearly a benefit for handling this puppy; virtual fuel use reducer.

Wonder what the stats are on engine, fuel, water, holding, economy/speed... etc?

She does push quite a bow wave in photo. At same time it appears little to no stern wave.

Interior looks nice. Bridge deck is huge. Not too easy ladder access to bridge. Wonder if salon pilot chair locks down to floor for hours of heavy weather/waves?

That one is also on YW with additional information.

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...dard%20listing
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The off-center salon is referred to as an Europa design. The designer did this to enlarge the interior of the salon. There are advantages and disadvantages to this design.

I say the following with NO marine engineering experience. Per the slope of the transom, in following seas, a rolling wave might lift the transom and bring the prop closer to the surface, if sloped upward and if the same wave hit the current transom, it might push the stern down and keep the prop in deeper water. Just a guess.
Per a canoe stern, still scratching my head on that one. I would guess, the same wave would be 'split' but, I am not sure of the benefit, positive or negative.
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Old 08-08-2019, 11:39 AM   #7404
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Carpet in the engine room, well that's interesting. I suppose it might deaden sounds or cushion the knees, but it's going to capture a lot of smells.

It's likewise carpeted with the same stuff everywhere else. Never been a fan of wall-to-wall carpeting installed on a boat. Too hard to keep clean.
Looks like it is just loose carpet pieces and not glued down in the engine room. Perhaps extra scraps from when they did the rest of the boat. Probably makes it nicer to work on your hands and knees on the engine.

I agree, I’d prefer not to see a single scrap of permanent carpet in my boat.
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Old 08-08-2019, 02:21 PM   #7405
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Looks like it is just loose carpet pieces and not glued down in the engine room. Perhaps extra scraps from when they did the rest of the boat. Probably makes it nicer to work on your hands and knees on the engine.

I agree, Id prefer not to see a single scrap of permanent carpet in my boat.
"... makes it nicer to work on your hands and knees on the engine."

Rule #1 in my book - able to stand up in engine area... or it's NOT my boat ever! Therefore, no carpet required!!
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Old 08-08-2019, 03:01 PM   #7406
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The other thing was why wasn't the walkway on the portside ?

My boat doesn't have walk around decks. So I might as well ask "why did they short-change the saloon width on the starboard side?".
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Old 08-08-2019, 04:12 PM   #7407
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My boat doesn't have walk around decks. So I might as well ask "why did they short-change the saloon width on the starboard side?".
What's the beam on your boat?
Think of how narrow your salon would be if they put the same walk around on both sides.
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Old 08-08-2019, 04:21 PM   #7408
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Saw this interesting boat yesterday when I was stooging about the marina at Magnetic island.
Interesting post about it online, too:

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There are many stories of heroic efforts during this time with one example being the contribution made by Ken Short. Our boat was not ready to go to Vanuatu, however a boatie friend we made during the 2013 trip stepped up to the task, along with his rather large ocean going motor boat called the Trinity Castle. Ken took on board a huge quantity of donated goods from Australia and for 3 months sailed around the islands providing assistance.
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I know of one case, a rather large boat, hauled a lot of supplies to an island. He lost his engine as he got close so he anchored and a friend offered to ferry some of the supplies to shore. Customs met his boat, the captain of the small sailing boat did not have any paper work related to the supplies so they locked he and his wife up when they did not have the cash to pay the fine. Later, some of the police drove them around to the ATMs to get the cash to pay the fine. They had to spend one more night in jail until they appeared before the judge, the next day.
So folks if you are going to be a good Samaritan and ferry the supplies ashore, take all the necessary paper work with you..... bills of laden, country of origin and and and.
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Old 08-08-2019, 05:23 PM   #7410
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My boat doesn't have walk around decks. So I might as well ask "why did they short-change the saloon width on the starboard side?".
To me - for my desiring to own a boat: Equally important as a stand up engine compartment... Boat also must have easily available exterior access via full complement of unobstructed walk around fore, aft and side decks.

Guess this; as well as my over 65 yrs boating [started as an infant]... I could truly be termed an "Old Salt"

Interestingly; a fellow at our dock a decade ago who had a full width salon with no side decks got his port salon window twice knocked in. Once at a tall pillar dock. Once from another boat tying alongside.

With that said - I will admit... no side decks with wide salon between hull sides does interior space provide and comfort seating make!!
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Old 08-08-2019, 06:01 PM   #7411
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What's the beam on your boat?
Think of how narrow your salon would be if they put the same walk around on both sides.

Yup. My beam is only 12' 7". That is about 1' skinnier than my last sailboat!
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Out of curiosity - what is the purpose of the slope on the transom? Other that looking quite nice and taking up cockpit space, I can't image it would perform much in the way of function. Any thoughts?
Some sailing yacht designers do this sort of reverse transom in order to lengthen the waterline and increase the hull speed on racing boats. And save weight in the transom area. Im not sure that would be the case here though. These are 12 meter racing yachts designed like that.

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I think so.
In the pic you can see the stern wave coming up and breaking free of the hull right at the transom/bottom edge.
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Old 08-08-2019, 07:09 PM   #7414
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Yup. My beam is only 12' 7". That is about 1' skinnier than my last sailboat!
12'7" beam... with how many feet OAL and at WL?

Our Tolly is 12'6" beam with 34' OAL [swim step not included] and 32' at WL
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12'7" beam... with how many feet OAL and at WL?

Our Tolly is 12'6" beam with 34' OAL [swim step not included] and 32' at WL

LOA: 44ft 6 in
Beam: 12 ft 7 in
LWL: 38 ft 3 in
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Dry Weight: 31000 lbs

North Pacific Yachts, when they looked to update the NP43, decided to go with a different hull form. They increased the LOA by a foot but the LWL by 3. They also increased the beam by a foot. This results in a LOT more interior room and with the longer waterline, I would expect it to be slightly faster at displacement speeds. All good decisions I think. My boat is roomy inside. The new NP45 has even more space.

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Yup. My beam is only 12' 7". That is about 1' skinnier than my last sailboat!
Yup ....
Sail boats are shaped like women .. wide in the middle.
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Interesting 38 foot woodie in Maine. The motor is shot....

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It has a 6lw Gardner and needs a head gasket.
That's a long way from shot
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Now here's a boat if you like polishing.

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Interesting boats

Wow talk about a work of art. Not the most practical boat but might make a nice little 6-pack charter boat
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