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Old 04-06-2019, 12:05 PM   #6821
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Super Duper Boat!!!!!!
It just oozes character and time worn honour. Maybe in retirement we can cruise the coast searching out these old, converted beauties...I can see a book of photographs accompanied with quotes recorded from conversations with the current (and maybe past) owners of the boats. It is thus that dreams are born!
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Old 04-06-2019, 12:11 PM   #6822
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Wouldn't want this 42' Wahl, but sure would tip my hat and give a thumbs up as it went by. Would love a couple days aboard a boat such as this with my camera!

https://www.boatdealers.ca/boats-for...itish-columbia

$255,000 CAD for a woody?
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Old 04-06-2019, 01:25 PM   #6823
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$255,000 CAD for a woody?
Had to look up where Donsan was from to understand this comment

Yes. Washington, BC and Alaska still have beautiful, well cared for, durable, reliable, wooden hulled boats for sale that are valued by their owners and others.

These aren't grandpa's plywood mass produced Chris Crafts. (And no one calls them a woody.)
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Old 04-06-2019, 01:31 PM   #6824
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Donsan,
Some people think with good reason that a wood boat is better.
They quite clearly are better at some aspects of being a boat.
But to put them down as undesirable junk that any fool should know to avoid.

Having said that any fool with any boating experience would know that as people say that so often that only the deaf would not be in the know. But to hold up the “don’t buy a wood boat” as a bit of knowledge that elevates one to “in the know” category and as smarter than most of us is an indication that it may have elements of being not really smart. If one shops with a lot of knowledge and objectivity occasionally one would buy a wood boat.

But if you have limited knowledge and abilities making a rule to never get close to buying a wood boat will serve you well and keep you out of a lot of trouble.
People come on TF eager for knowledge to deal w their FG boat. There’s so much to know. If they applied the same effort to learning about wood boats they’d do fine w a wood boat.

The elephant in the room is knowledge that most all boaters don’t have. 99% of people that say they’d never buy a wood boat just don’t understand them.
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Old 04-06-2019, 01:38 PM   #6825
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Had to look up where Donsan was from to understand this comment

Yes. Washington, BC and Alaska still have beautiful, well cared for, durable, reliable, wooden hulled boats for sale that are valued by their owners and others.

These aren't grandpa's plywood mass produced Chris Crafts. (And no one calls them a woody.)
Spy,
I don’t call any boat a woody. They are wood boats. That’s it.

As for the old plywood boats the ones that spent their lives in a garage or barn and otherwise well cared for can be worth buying. I’d like to find a good cheap 24’ SaberCraft to use as a trailerable cruiser that would cruise at or close to 10 knots w my 60hp big block Suzuki OB. But they sure can pound.
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Old 04-06-2019, 03:44 PM   #6826
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You guys in the PNW have it good. Well this steel hull/aluminum superstructure Real Ship pilothouse turned up on YW today. Except for the lack of flybridge rails and the price, I like it. Definitely would have chosen a darker blue for the hull. Oh, and a 60' covered slip in Anacortes Marina can be added for an additional $275K but I am clueless what they mean "for the Manatee".

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...dard%20listing
A real beauty! And I'm in the chorus calling for a darker blue hull. Or dark green.
But the first thing I would do if I owned her would be to move the furnace exhaust away from the stern platform. Too easy to burn unsuspecting ankles.
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Old 04-06-2019, 06:26 PM   #6827
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If the furnace is running, who is wearing shorts? Certainly there won’t be many swimmers using the platform at anytime, much less when you need the heat.
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Old 04-06-2019, 06:47 PM   #6828
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You don't have to be wearing shorts to get burned. Any boarding activity or dinghy activity could bring someone near the outlet. Or a polar bear swimmer - they would definitely want the furnace running!
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Old 04-06-2019, 08:23 PM   #6829
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If the furnace is running, who is wearing shorts? Certainly there won’t be many swimmers using the platform at anytime, much less when you need the heat.
Believe me or not but here I've seen some folks wearing short while it was -20C outdoor, not sure they are still alive though

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Old 04-07-2019, 01:04 AM   #6830
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Wouldn't want this 42' Wahl, but sure would tip my hat and give a thumbs up as it went by. Would love a couple days aboard a boat such as this with my camera!

https://www.boatdealers.ca/boats-for...itish-columbia


Wow, beautiful. Just perfect.
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Old 04-07-2019, 03:55 AM   #6831
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Wow, beautiful. Just perfect.
Whoa, way too much varnish. The owner must have a staff to professional maintaining that finish.
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Old 04-07-2019, 07:03 AM   #6832
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Donsan,
Some people think with good reason that a wood boat is better.
They quite clearly are better at some aspects of being a boat.
But to put them down as undesirable junk that any fool should know to avoid.

Having said that any fool with any boating experience would know that as people say that so often that only the deaf would not be in the know. But to hold up the “don’t buy a wood boat” as a bit of knowledge that elevates one to “in the know” category and as smarter than most of us is an indication that it may have elements of being not really smart. If one shops with a lot of knowledge and objectivity occasionally one would buy a wood boat.

But if you have limited knowledge and abilities making a rule to never get close to buying a wood boat will serve you well and keep you out of a lot of trouble.
People come on TF eager for knowledge to deal w their FG boat. There’s so much to know. If they applied the same effort to learning about wood boats they’d do fine w a wood boat.

The elephant in the room is knowledge that most all boaters don’t have. 99% of people that say they’d never buy a wood boat just don’t understand them.

Norman,

Good point and wood certainly has its advantages. That's a gorgeous boat, and we can appreciate its looks. However, wood for the most part, is not popular. However, there sure look neat. I drooled over the wooden boats at the Clayton NY wooden boat museum... they are truly stunning.

But, there's a reason folks remove wood and teak and replace with fiberglass.

For those who have owned wooden boats, they can appreciate the maintenance. A nice wooden cap rail is about as much wood as I'd want.

However, this is just an opinion, and others may differ.
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Old 04-07-2019, 07:20 AM   #6833
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For those who have owned wooden boats, they can appreciate the maintenance. A nice wooden cap rail is about as much wood as I'd want.

However, this is just an opinion, and others may differ.
I had a 46N. The rail cap was about 8 inches wide. I turned it over to a professional group to maintain. If I remember correctly, that was the only exterior teak and IMO it was way too much.
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Old 04-07-2019, 09:58 AM   #6834
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SeeVee wrote;
“But, there's a reason folks remove wood and teak and replace with fiberglass.”

A lot of old men in the past have called younger people lazy.
Here’s a repeat from an old man now.
But most all wood boats in the fifties were painted ... not varnished.
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Old 04-07-2019, 10:39 AM   #6835
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“But, there's a reason folks remove wood and teak and replace with fiberglass.”

A lot of old men in the past have called younger people lazy.
Here’s a repeat from an old man now.
But most all wood boats in the fifties were painted ... not varnished.
Turned [a luckily healthful] 67 yrs. last Wed. In very young years on LI NY South Shore and in The City I worked at "boat yards" on all sorts of wood boats.

Watched and experienced the evolution of FG come onto the market.

I became a near master at applying interior or exterior varnish... just like a mirror! Darn good at straight-up painting too; much of it applied after stripping varnish off a boat.. Also, calked many a hull just before applying bottom paint. As well worked in a new boat builder that constructed both wood and FG boats from the ground up.

Reason I mention the above: I simply LOVE the looks, feel, finish, smell and workability of wood on boats. That said... I've owned wood boats and FG boats. IMO - Wood boats are beautiful art pieces; mostly from yesteryear. Fiberglass boats are the way to go if you don't want to work really hard or pay people to work really hard.

Simple to say... I currently own two FG boats; neither with any exterior wood. Wash n' wear with a simonize every decade [whether needed or not] is all that's required on a good quality FG boat that's kept in fresh water under roof covered floating-finger-docks.

At 67 yrs. I've got way better things to spend time [and/or money] on than weeks to months refinishing a wood boat... over and over again as years/decades progress!

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I can't top that gorgeous Wahl, but found this: http://www.pacificboatbrokers.com/us...es=true#images

Wooden Boats have captured the hearts of a small group of dedicated yachtsmen and women (without both spouses involved, having a second love that takes so much time, effort and money wouldn't happen). Some have been kept to a remarkable standard, of which the Wahl is a great example. Many are kept well, with all of the important stuff properly attended to and a great future ahead of them.
In my own group of boating friends are several who are caretakers of well kept wood boats. Most are quite old, 1912, 1938, 1944 (the boats, not the people) to name only the best kept group. Some were originally built as yachts, some were workboats and have gone through extensive rebuilding to emerge as fine yachts.
Once committed to the care of a quality boat, owners find the craftsmen they need, or aquire the skills themselves, so the work gets done. As well, the seamanship knowledge base in that group of boaters is at the top, as is their willingness to share with others.
I am privileged to call many of the wooden boat group "friends".
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Old 04-07-2019, 01:07 PM   #6837
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I can't top that gorgeous Wahl, but found this: http://www.pacificboatbrokers.com/us...es=true#images
Majestic!

With 85' of chain and 700' of cable, anchoring in 100' would sure avoid swing logistics near estuary outwash fans and/or drying flats
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Wood is great for small craft, but above that size the care and feeding becomes all-consuming. Great if you love them enough to dedicate the money or, more importantly, the time they demand. In my case even varnished rails are too much commitment!
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Ok. So we get it. Florida guys don't like wood.... [emoji1]
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Ok. So we get it. Florida guys don't like wood.... [emoji1]
They probably have to toredo worms as thick as your forearm down there
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