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OldDan1943
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- Kinja
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- American Tug 34 #116 2008
Reminds me of the rum-runner hull design.
2 of the crew permanently assigned to maintaining the exterior varnish.
To my eye there is a lot of visual clutter (but they sure are popular so apparently it doesn't bother buyers).
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Seafarer is beautiful! Makes me want to see more.
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If I added up my boat "varnish" days during years at LI boatyards when young... I it would amount to many, many hundred hours. On the hard, transoms were my favorite. They were so easy to get at on a scaffold. Also, transom varnish application could be accomplished during their shade time of any late spring, summer or early fall day.
In the basement, out from my 13'3" Boston Whaler, taking down the seats and pilot station to bare mahogany once every two years and bringing them back with 6 to 8 coats of Valspar varnish made me happy!!
Sailor of Fortune
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yes Bob has some help with the varnishing....Mrs Bob. They are owner operators who are caring for this beautiful boat. As they did with their Grand Banks prior...
wkearney99
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- Solstice
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- Grand Banks 47 Eastbay FB
Nomad Willy
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Thanks for the link wkearney99,
For the link to Bob and Jill’s wonderful boat.
160hp for a 56’ boat. Nice
For the link to Bob and Jill’s wonderful boat.
160hp for a 56’ boat. Nice
RT Firefly
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Greetings,
I wondered when buttocks would make their appearance (post #9030, in case you missed it). Thank you Mr. NW. You haven't let me down.
I wondered when buttocks would make their appearance (post #9030, in case you missed it). Thank you Mr. NW. You haven't let me down.
Nomad Willy
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Ge thanks RT.
I thought the line went dead.
I thought the word buttocks might promote some thought.
It's a deep subject you know.
I thought the line went dead.
I thought the word buttocks might promote some thought.
It's a deep subject you know.
You could power most of the world's pleasure boats with a single Jimmy.... oh, one can only dream....
Did you get a glimpse of that gorgeous bronze windlass and chain stopper with the beautiful verdigris?
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Nomad Willy
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Art you’re too fussy.
Bob’s teak looks fine to me.
I’d oil it a bit if it were mine.
A little Linseed oil (25%) and kerosene to drive it into the wood.
Bob’s teak looks fine to me.
I’d oil it a bit if it were mine.
A little Linseed oil (25%) and kerosene to drive it into the wood.
I enjoy romanticism, in several ways... but... not for restoring teak surface! :lol:
Surface refinishing is a form of restoration. Fussy is as fussy does!! :lol:
Island Cessna
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And, the teak looking as though restoration needs apparent.
Remember Bob has real teak, logged no doubt with the help of an elephant, fastened to solid wood with bronze screws made by an American machinist, and installed by a craftsman who apprenticed under generations of experience.
I think the decks look just like they were intended to look after 90+ years and hope Bob just proudly keeps them clean.
When it comes to teak underfoot, 'white' is right.
Just the occasional salt water scrub, please.
Nomad Willy
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Dosn’t salt water cause corrosion?
Like Island Cessna’s comment above.
Like Island Cessna’s comment above.
That might cause a problem on a steel deck which is why I'll never own
another steel boat with teak decks.
On a wood boat with bronze fasteners the salt water helps preserve
the teak decks and keep away mold, etc.
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So when you comment about teak decks on a steel boat, exactly what type of construction are you referring to?
My steel boat had deck beam angles and the deck was teak fastened to the frames directly. Then caulked as usual. There was no plywood or solid steel deck under the teak.
After 40 years, well, yes it was horrible. But that's real old-fashioned construction.
My steel boat had deck beam angles and the deck was teak fastened to the frames directly. Then caulked as usual. There was no plywood or solid steel deck under the teak.
After 40 years, well, yes it was horrible. But that's real old-fashioned construction.
My experience was with teak screwed down onto plywood which had been screwed
to the steel deck on a 1969 hull.
There was a steel lip coaming that contained the plywood and teak sandwich with no
way for water to drain away once it got in. It was very difficult to keep rust-free.
ben2go
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I watch a friend of mine with a 36ft. steel sailboat battle rust. All the deck fittings are SS welded to the mild steel hull. The rust seems to start in those areas and quickly spread. He is constantly grinding away rust. He uses epoxy primer for steel boats along with poly primer and top coat. This year he hauled out and is doing an extensive hull restoration. He has had to grind away so must rust over the year and a half he's owned the boat that the hull is getting to thin in areas. Surprisingly, he isn't getting rust inside the hull. It's my understanding that condensation is the killer of steel boats as they rust from the inside out. He has a special case, I think. One of those one in a million anomalies.
Portage_Bay
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I find it interesting that the concept of interior deterioration keeps appearing on TF. I spent my career working on steel boats. In my experience It's the outside that is the main concern. Other areas are windows and if a traditional stuffing box that is supposed to drip then under the stuffing box. Interior surfaces unless a spot where water pools may see a patina of rust but not significant deterioration.
If your friend is grinding his hull away he is using the wrong approach. trying to take all the rust down to shiny metal. Paint can't adhere to a shiny slick surface, it needs a textured surface for the paint to 'grip'. Sand blasting is the perfect texture. A needle gun is a better tool than a grinder and leaves a better surface for painting.
And he needs to reconsider the paints he's using. Talk to a yard that paints steel workboats and see what primer they are using. A decent paint job should go 5 - 10 yrs with minor touch up hear and there except where abraded.
Where the stainless is welded to the mild steel may be a special problem where the different metals meet. Mild, stainless and the welding rod. If that can't be brought under control using the correct tools and primer then I'd change my boat's appearance a bit. A chip brush's width of simpler to maintain coating. When the rust appears, a light attack with a needle gun, a product like coroseal then top coat.
In my opinion the key to happiness with a steel boat unless you have unbelievably deep pockets it to learn to appreciate a workboat finish. I don't mean embrace the rust. Trying to keep a steel boat looking like a fiberglass boat just popped out of the mold will be an endless expense.
OldDan1943
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While it is out of the water, identify the thin spots and weld a path over them, after proper preparation.
Portage_Bay
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New Pacific
New Pacific Camas Wa. Work boat conversions always catch my eye. A quick search turned up a couple of interesting articles on her state of the art electrical system. Here 1150 AMP hour battery bank is charged in 1 1/2 hours.
New Pacific - Revision Marine
Pacific Powerhouse - Passagemaker
New Pacific Camas Wa. Work boat conversions always catch my eye. A quick search turned up a couple of interesting articles on her state of the art electrical system. Here 1150 AMP hour battery bank is charged in 1 1/2 hours.
New Pacific - Revision Marine
Pacific Powerhouse - Passagemaker
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Thanks for posting this. The boat is really eye-catching. Both articles were really interesting and then I found two or three more links (about other boats or people) to open in yet more tabs
stubones99
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If I understood correctly, they do it with their generator, running it at it's best (most efficient) point. The charging can thus be done quickly (they were having issues prior to that with running generators for hours and hours on end, and not even at most efficient load point). That was the main goal of the project.
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stubones99
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If you can tune an engine to run a genset at a specific load, you can optimize everything. I wonder about the heat put into the batteries, charging them that fast... And lithium iron phosphate chemistry batteries are rated low as far as energy density. They won't explode, and they last for years, but you have to have more batteries for the same output compared to Lithium Ion batteries.
