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Old 06-21-2017, 02:05 AM   #4221
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Another cool trailerable boat; Dave Gerr's DR Northwest Cruiser, but this one's beachable on its box keel. As designed it carries 300 gallons of diesel with a 46hp engine...you could go a long ways from the boat ramp!

DR NORTHWEST CRUISER
Murray- Now that is a sensible craft! Put a keel on it, as I don't intend to be 'beaching' intentionally on not. I like all the remaining specs, make a good inside waters such as you and I have to play in. Good rain country boat for sure.

Editing my post to include this model by Gerr:

http://www.gerrmarine.com/ESCAPADE.html

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Old 06-21-2017, 02:29 AM   #4222
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A keel on the DR Northwest Cruiser? NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!

Imagine...sneaking up a creek on a high tide, then letting the tide drop and settle the boat onto a sand bar. You could go exploring for a good 10 hours without worrying about a massive spruce log or Humpback Whale picking up your anchor and dragging your boat away.

Or...there's a storm coming...you could go into a small protected cove with a gradual beach, and if the timings right, you could "anchor" just below the higher high tide line (we have a lower high tide and a higher high tide each day in this area) which would give you a good 24 hours with absolutely zero chance of dragging anchor
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Old 06-21-2017, 02:44 AM   #4223
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Check these out, Al. Some photo's of larger box keel boats by Gerr resting on the sands: Beachable Boats
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Old 06-21-2017, 03:04 AM   #4224
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[QUOTE=MurrayM;565540]A keel on the DR Northwest Cruiser? NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!

Imagine...sneaking up a creek on a high tide, then letting the tide drop and settle the boat onto a sand bar. You could go exploring for a good 10 hours without worrying about a massive spruce log or Humpback Whale picking up your anchor and dragging your boat away.

Or...there's a storm coming...you could go into a small protected cove with a gradual beach, and if the timings right, you could "anchor" just below the higher high tide line (we have a lower high tide and a higher high tide each day in this area) which would give you a good 24 hours with absolutely zero chance of dragging anchor [/QUOTE
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I see and understand your point[s]. I sneak up the creeks in my row boat and leave the larger boat on the hook. [Just installed a shore line reel on the canopy top. It is one of those plastic garden hose reels in a self contained reel container. As there is no strain on the shore line as it is tied off on a boat cleat, this works well. Holds over 300 feet of 1'2 nylon. (Thinking of replacing with poly line for the floating feature]

Keep an eye out for those whales and logs in any case. Logs are becoming rare, but the whales are increasing for sure.

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Old 06-21-2017, 10:13 AM   #4225
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Check these out, Al. Some photo's of larger box keel boats by Gerr resting on the sands: Beachable Boats
These boats are really, really nice! Ocean going and beachable... wow!!
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Old 06-21-2017, 10:26 AM   #4226
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These boats are really, really nice! Ocean going and beachable... wow!!
You bet.

One thing I loved as a sea kayaker was being able to haul the kayaks out of the water during storms, which during the winter around here can last 5 days or so and go from 50 knots northerly outflow to 60 knots southwesterly in a day.

These boats would allow you to plunk them down in a protected spot during storms, or you could go on a river or ridge line hike for three days and not worry about the boat at all.

So many new possibilities...
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Old 06-21-2017, 10:51 AM   #4227
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Murray,
Re the DR NW Cruiser on the last page ... post 220
Very very nice hull.
But the fwd end if the cabin is really stupid looking.
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Old 06-21-2017, 12:20 PM   #4228
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Check these out, Al. Some photo's of larger box keel boats by Gerr resting on the sands: Beachable Boats
That rear tunnel hull design (Sea Bright) is something I've always wanted to see in a 34 LOA 8'6" beam boat. I see Gerr did it. Too bad the design is a bit too complicated for a home builder, building with wood and epoxy.


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ben2go,
There's a fairly well known Atkins boat w that hull.
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:09 PM   #4230
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There's a fairly well known Atkins boat w that hull.
I know there is one but I haven't came across the plans, yet. I'll do more research when I get back in the swing again.
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Another box keel (beachable/skinny water) contender.

Chesapeake Marine Design's Redwing 40 Long Range Cruiser;

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Ben,
Search "atkin boat plans" click on "boats" and find the most popular today "Rescue Minor" or a better boat "everhope". And there are others. Rescue Minor is probably the one you're trying to remember.

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No pics of the bottom. Can't see if it's flat or V. I'd guess flat as evidenced by the stem. Like the cabin configuration and L to B ratio.
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Search "atkin boat plans" click on "boats" and find the most popular today "Rescue Minor" or a better boat "everhope". And there are others. Rescue Minor is probably the one you're trying to remember.

Murray,
No pics of the bottom. Can't see if it's flat or V. I'd guess flat as evidenced by the stem. Like the cabin configuration and L to B ratio.
I have, or had, the rescue minor plans. It's a nice little boat. Many years ago, I bought the plans from a 3rd party that was illegally selling them. I didn't have the knowledge that I have now, or I wouldn't have bought them.

No one has posted pics of Everhope. Atkin & Co. - Everhope

Rescue Minor. Atkin & Co. - Rescue Minor








Seabright Rescue Minor running in less than 6 inches of water at speed. That's the reason I like this hull design. there is/was a thread about this boat on the wooden boat forums.
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This little honey of a Rescue Minor speaks to me.

Robb White, Boatbuilder, Thomasville, Georgia

I call it a Barel Back Rescue Minor.
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In case you have never read about the boat, I’ll give you the specs: It is twenty feet long and 76” wide. It is strip built out of tulip poplar and is powered by a three cylinder Kubota Diesel tractor engine rated at 20 hp. It will run 20 knots in six inches of water and gets about 28.6 nautical miles per gallon of Diesel fuel running at its most economical speed of 10.5 knots. It is not for sale and I don’t ever intend to build another one… certainly not for anybody else but me, but the plans for the unbastardized plywood version are available from: www.atkinboatplans.com.



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I wonder how they back w the prop not completely submerged? Going fwd I'm sure the cav is temporary but in reverse it may be a constant. Also wonder about the prop walk.

Now there's a name for a boat .... "unbastardized".

I have that Wooden Boat mag somewhere. Classy curves but perhaps the standard Rescue Minor will give the same performance.
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I wonder how they back w the prop not completely submerged? Going fwd I'm sure the cav is temporary but in reverse it may be a constant. Also wonder about the prop walk.

I would think that prop walk would be negated by the shape of the rear tunnel kind of like multiple skegs seems to lessen prop walk. I'm not sure about reversing and cavitation. Maybe the shape builds the water in around the prop as it moves back. Just a guess on that.
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From the Rescue Minor page at Atkins...

"It will be noticed that the shaft angle is very nearly parallel to the water line; but that the center of the shaft is splayed to port about 5 inches at the motor flywheel. This splaying does several things; not least of which is to correct the side thrust of the righthand turning propeller, and therefore contributing not a little to the speed of the boat. The advantage of this splay will be felt also when the boat is backed."
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Thanks dimmer,
I've seen the angled shaft in other Atkin designs too. I'm sure the shaft angle is optimized for straight line cruising at mid throttle.
I think these boats probably do have quite a bit of prop walk in reverse. Most of the upper arc of the ptopeller is out of the water and not likely to fill the prop cavity going backwards. A prop that backs very well like a michigan MP propeller halving symmetrical blades probably would help. Skewed props may be hard to handle. But of course that's fly stuff compared to what the boat CAN do.
Thanks for the heads up.
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