 |
|
04-26-2018, 07:05 AM
|
#41
|
|
Senior Member
City: New York
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 338
|
Airhead looks interesting....you can pull the liquid bottle without opening the solids lid..
|
|
|
|
04-27-2018, 05:48 AM
|
#42
|
|
Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
|
"Airhead looks interesting....you can pull the liquid bottle without opening the solids lid.."
Since the waste does not smell, the advantage is?
|
|
|
|
|
04-27-2018, 11:37 AM
|
#43
|
|
Senior Member
City: Rockford, IL
Vessel Name: Du NORD
Vessel Model: Albin-25
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 350
|
We notice no odor when we open our Natures Head to remove the urine jug. At the time we ordered our NH with the "elongated bowl", Air Head had only the original round bowl. Big diff.
|
|
|
|
|
06-02-2018, 07:56 PM
|
#44
|
|
Guru
City: Victoria TX
Vessel Name: Bijou
Vessel Model: 2008 Island Packet PY/SP
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5,275
|
Composting head info
Finally got my Nature’s Head desiccating toilet installed a few days ago. First I flushed and cleaned out the holding tank like crazy, then ripped out all the stinky hoses, leaking Y valves and the leaking macerator pump. That was a job I don’t ever want to do again. Those old stiff hoses were a bitch to get out! My plumbing system was run in some crazy tight places (this is a sailboat hull with no real bilge like most trawlers). The hose from the toilet ran under the floor then up behind the sink about 3’ in a big loop for some reason, and then back down to the valves, tank and macerator. That looped hose was the smelliest— I don’t think that loop ever got totally emptied (until I cut it with a sawzall that is 🤨  . So damn gross.
Anyway, the new head is in and so far so good! I’m using coco coir and there is no smell at all, but I’ve not used it all that much yet so time will tell. I sure like the simplicity vs the ridiculous amount of hoses, tanks and valves on the old system. I ran the vent for the toilet forward to the chain locker. I didn’t want to drill a big hole in the boat and that was the only way I could think of. The vent hose run is about 15’ so I mounted a solar powered vent in the hatch over the chain locker to help the venting process.
I’m the world’s worst carpenter, but I made a little foot stool because the base where I mounted the toilet is pretty small and my feet were not comfortably on the floor. Felt strange— I’m 6’2” and I’m not used to my feet not touching the ground. This NH toilet is much taller than my old toilet.  
 
|
|
|
|
|
06-02-2018, 10:25 PM
|
#45
|
|
Guru
City: Longboat Key, FL
Vessel Name: Bucky
Vessel Model: Krogen Manatee 36 North Sea
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,189
|
Dude: The only way to know for sure is to join me over at Captain Tico’s for several of his famous four-bean “bowel thruster” burritos. We’ll give that thing a sea trial it will never forget.
__________________
Larry
"When life gets hard, eat marshmallows”.
|
|
|
|
|
06-03-2018, 04:08 AM
|
#46
|
|
Senior Member
City: Rockford, IL
Vessel Name: Du NORD
Vessel Model: Albin-25
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 350
|
"Bowel Thruster"! GREAT TERM! 
|
|
|
|
|
06-03-2018, 04:14 AM
|
#47
|
|
Guru
City: Sydney
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,646
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moby Nick
"Bowel Thruster"! GREAT TERM! |
I'm praying RT dosnt reply to this with a GIF 
|
|
|
|
|
06-03-2018, 05:31 AM
|
#48
|
|
Guru
City: Victoria TX
Vessel Name: Bijou
Vessel Model: 2008 Island Packet PY/SP
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5,275
|
I’m just eating salad and vegetables from now on. 
|
|
|
|
|
06-03-2018, 06:13 AM
|
#49
|
|
Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
|
The amount of juice the NH fan requires is less than most batt swts discharge internally every day.
Solar is nice , but not necessary to make up for fan use.
|
|
|
|
|
06-03-2018, 06:20 AM
|
#50
|
|
Guru
City: Victoria TX
Vessel Name: Bijou
Vessel Model: 2008 Island Packet PY/SP
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5,275
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by FF
The amount of juice the NH fan requires is less than most batt swts discharge internally every day.
Solar is nice , but not necessary to make up for fan use.
|
Yeah the solar fan was probably a waste of money. I just worried that because of the long 15’ run on the vent tube the little computer fan in the toilet would not be enough trying to push air that far. Plus I have a few 90 degree turns on my hose. With both fans running I really can’t tell much of a difference in suction at the toilet.
|
|
|
|
|
06-03-2018, 11:40 PM
|
#51
|
|
Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 9,045
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by FF
The amount of juice the NH fan requires is less than most batt swts discharge internally every day.
Solar is nice , but not necessary to make up for fan use.
|
Those solar vents are really nice. They have an internal battery that will keep them running most of the night. Easy to install and no wiring to run. Solar doesn’t have to be about saving battery use.
|
|
|
|
|
06-06-2018, 01:15 AM
|
#52
|
|
Guru
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 519
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by O C Diver
Please don't take this the wrong way. If I went to look at a boat with a disconnected plumbing system, my first thought would be, "What else is did the PO not fix? Think I would fix the system. In the scheme of things, the parts to fix yours aren't all that expensive.
Ted
|
In defense of the cardude I don't think either of you has a disagreement. I hear that the cardude is unsure of the option at this point. Nobody yet is selling a boat. But why not leave an escape hach just in case.
Just MO I love you both. I'm curious of the concept though.
Craig
|
|
|
|
|
06-06-2018, 01:34 AM
|
#53
|
|
Guru
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 519
|
Forgive me my response was appropriate long ago. I failed to check post dates. Great subject though.
|
|
|
|
|
06-06-2018, 06:39 AM
|
#54
|
|
TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, (Australia), now Bribie Island, Qld
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 9,952
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by dhays
Those solar vents are really nice. They have an internal battery that will keep them running most of the night. Easy to install and no wiring to run. Solar doesn’t have to be about saving battery use.
|
You're right. I put one in the middle of the hatch in our front master cabin roof, and it's great. Hums away all day, and at night in the summer if I put a rechargeable batt back in, and prevents moisture and mildew when the boat is unattended as well. I also have one venting the flybridge locker where the electrics and gas bottle etc are for same reason. 
__________________
Pete
|
|
|
|
|
06-07-2018, 05:20 AM
|
#55
|
|
Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
|
The hatch vents sold here are OK for keeping rain out , but do not handle green water well.
Not for installation over a bunk.
|
|
|
|
|
06-07-2018, 08:42 AM
|
#56
|
|
Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
|
Before installing a fan directly outside I decided to approach the ventilation issue slowly.
Our boat has natural ventilation between the hull and behind cabinetry, as well as through the engine room, that goes from near the bow to the lazarette. My guess is that boats are built this way to keep mildew and condensation at bay in inaccessible areas.
I put a small computer fan between the enclosure hiding the poop container and bathroom sink cabinet. It does the trick perfectly in that you can never tell in the pilothouse or in the saloon when someone is doing a #2.
__________________
"The most interesting path between two points is not a straight line" MurrayM
|
|
|
|
|
06-07-2018, 08:55 AM
|
#57
|
|
Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
|
Couple more reasonings;
By having a fan in the contained area where the smell is emanating from, you can have a much smaller fan. When venting the whole head, you are actually pulling the stink from the contained area, into the head, then out of the boat, so the fan has to be much bigger.
After depositing the #2 we give a quick spritz with an air freshener...even this smell leaves fairly quickly with the little fan working with the natural ventilation of the boat.
__________________
"The most interesting path between two points is not a straight line" MurrayM
|
|
|
|
|
06-07-2018, 09:12 PM
|
#58
|
|
Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 9,045
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by FF
The hatch vents sold here are OK for keeping rain out , but do not handle green water well.
Not for installation over a bunk.
|
Or yet another good reason for me to avoid situations where I am taking green water over the bow in my boat. Once was enough.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
|
| Display Modes |
 Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Trawler Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
