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10-31-2018, 06:44 PM
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Senior Member
City: Brentwood Bay, BC
Vessel Name: Golden Dawn
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 235
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Gutters on a KK-42
Has anyone had any success with adding gutters along the trimline on the wheelhouse and along the side decks? I was hoping to find something "on the shelf" in a J-shape. It needs to be 1" high and 1.5 inches wide - like the image below but bigger.
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Golden Dawn, KK42-82
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10-31-2018, 06:57 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 15,897
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Greetings,
Mr. GD. Not a KK but pretty well the same configuration and need for gutters IF I understand your query correctly. I've been looking,on and off for exactly the stuff you are. I even posed the same question here on TF and no suggestions, as I recall.
In lieu of the "J" gutters which would attach on the outside overhang from the top deck, I've been considering gluing/adhesing 1"X1" strips of ? (haven't determined what yet) solid plastic at the extreme outside horizontal surface (the deck) of the FB to at least channel any run off to a "central" location where some sort of spout might be attached.
I do have access to the underside if I wanted to through bolt the strips but I am extremely hesitant to start drilling holes for something I'm not sure will work. A self stick "J" gutter would be the ideal.
I suspect you're looking for something like this but much wider across the bottom and a rounded bottom channel...
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10-31-2018, 07:11 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
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I need gutters myself . I’ve diverted some of the water but not how I really want to . I’ve managed to divert my runoff from my roof top ac unit but t that’s elementary when it comes to to rainwater runoff. We must face the fact that whatever we do it ain’t gonna be pretty. I’m paying close attention here.
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10-31-2018, 07:16 PM
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Guru
City: Walkabout Creek
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 8,615
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My wife found a self adhesive flexible rain diverter for RVs that worked great. I only wish I knew the name/brand. But it's basically a "J" shaped extrusion with double stick tape on one surface. We had a number of places where water from above cascaded down in most unfortunate locations. The diverter strips worked great. The only down side it that the minimum quantity was something like 50'. We gave a bunch to fellow boaters with similar problems.
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10-31-2018, 07:21 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 15,897
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Greetings,
Saint tt. I'd forgotten about the RV market. Thanks. The search is on...
Can't remember where I read it (Might have even been TF) but: Of all the things I've lost by getting older, I miss my mind the most.
Just saw your other post..Sorry Mr. Saint tt. I'll try to remember....Really I will...
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10-31-2018, 07:30 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
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For mine I’ve thought about finding the low spot in my roof a couple inches from the edge and drilling a hole there and tapering the hole to accept a flushmount type thru hull fitting with a 90 degree hose barb and attaching a braided hose that extends past the caprails. Kinda red neck but I think it would work. But I ain’t brave enough to try it. I have a solid piece of teak up there now that diverts it fore and aft but it puddles in the center .
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10-31-2018, 07:35 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
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Greetings,
Mr. PM. I thought about the low spot on OUR upper deck (sort of sway back like a KK) BUT then I realized that depending on the amount of fuel aboard, that "low spot" will shift fore and aft.
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10-31-2018, 07:44 PM
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Veteran Member
City: FORT LAUDERDALE,FL
Vessel Name: ARIE
Vessel Model: 2000 43ft SELENE/SOLO
Join Date: Jan 2016
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You should all look into "ESSENTIAL PRODUCTS" They make the RV type rain gutters for RV's and boats. It's not 1 inch, but it does the job. It come in black, white and ivory. 800 560 7147.
I have used it on two boats so far, and I am happy with it.
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10-31-2018, 07:48 PM
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Senior Member
City: Brentwood Bay, BC
Vessel Name: Golden Dawn
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 235
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I crashed around on RV sites and even mobile home sites but nothing quite right. I also looked at various aluminum extrusions and will go down to the Metal Super Market tomorrow to check their stock. I ripped a 2" PVC pipe to see if that would work - it is close but not quite enough height; maybe gluing a couple pieces together (boats!). And maybe a small aluminum or vinyl gutter could be cut to make it work. Thanks for thoughts here
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Golden Dawn, KK42-82
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10-31-2018, 07:51 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Greetings,
Mr. 465. Thanks. That seems to be the most common size and configuration on the market. Unfortunately I will be draining an area about 150 sq ft. (1/2 area of FB) and I'm afraid such a small profile would easily be overwhelmed in anything more than a gentle shower.
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10-31-2018, 07:57 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
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There is a common place the water goes to almost no matter what the conditions are. It’s not a house and it ain’t gonna be perfect all the time . There should be a stain reflecting that area. If you could channel it there then dump it like a downspout.
I’ve had a few cocktails and I’m feeling a little overconfident 
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10-31-2018, 08:26 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
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I bought some from trail pals horse trailer web site. They sold it by the foot.
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10-31-2018, 11:39 PM
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Senior Member
City: Brentwood Bay, BC
Vessel Name: Golden Dawn
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: May 2011
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ComoDave - I am guessing that you purchased "drip rails" as below? That does not have a wide-enough gutter for my application. Wish it were that easy.
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Golden Dawn, KK42-82
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11-01-2018, 12:28 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 18,052
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Yes, that is what I bought to create a drip edgs under my rub rails.
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11-01-2018, 03:03 AM
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Veteran Member
City: PNW
Vessel Name: Kingfisher
Vessel Model: 1974 Meridian Yachts Pilothouse 48
Join Date: Nov 2012
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I tried those EZE Gutters with the sticky back. They held on well but weren't big enough to handle the rain load. Super disappointed.
Now I'm wondering about something like these steel mini-gutters - scroll past the drip rails to see the item I'm looking at:
R & G Mobile Home Supply- Drip Rails and Mini-Gutter
I've been seeing some interesting options when I search for "awning gutters" or "tent gutters"
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11-01-2018, 04:32 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Chicago, IL
Vessel Name: Bay Pelican
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: Oct 2007
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On Bay Pelican, a Krogen 42, we took a different approach. There are four drain holes on the lip of the upper deck. We filled these holes in with a combination of 1/2" PVC tubing and one of the deck fill products. Water run off then came out the tubing. We used flexible extensions of the tubing to keep the draining water off the side of the boat. Depending on the season we then adding hosing to one or two of the drains to catch water which we used for washing. We added an in-line filter to catch most of the debris which drained off the deck.
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11-01-2018, 04:55 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
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This is a kk42 that was next to us at Green Turtle Bay a few months ago. You can see a couple of hose pieces hanging off the upper deck.This was what got me to thinking about mine.
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11-18-2018, 06:55 PM
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Guru
City: Lions Bay, BC
Vessel Name: Phoenix Hunter
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 (1985)
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 2,697
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pack Mule
This is a kk42 that was next to us at Green Turtle Bay a few months ago. You can see a couple of hose pieces hanging off the upper deck.This was what got me to thinking about mine.
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I have something similar to that, but connected to some pvc pipe. It sorta works, but it’s a regular process to clean out the algae that collects inside the pipes. This is the best photo I have.
Jim
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11-18-2018, 07:42 PM
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
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What about something like this?
Rectangular PVC downpipe.
Cut it at 60mm one side and 40mm other side so end up with J shaped gutter.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/icon-pla...npipe_p4775596
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11-18-2018, 07:43 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 15,897
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Greetings,
Mr. AK. Re: post #15. The "mini gutters" are most probably large enough for my purposes BUT I would much prefer plastic. Somehow steel, even coated steel, and salt water don't pay well together.
Just did yet another search. Have you seen this:
Available in 3/4" size as well.
Flexible Vinyl J-Channel - Special Service Plastic Company, Inc. ?
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