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holts13 06-21-2013 05:19 PM

Hey Everyone New from Michigan
 
Well, my wife and I are trying to become live a boards, but keep running into road blocks. Thought we would join TF and hope for some answers. Sold our home but haven't closed yet. Insurance company telling me I will loose our liability insurance as soon as we close unless we rent, or buy another home.:banghead: We haven't bought our boat yet and can't until I have cash in hand from selling of our home. Trying to find out what others have done to get or keep their liability while looking for a boat.
So far, I have read many post etc, and find everyone very interesting. We are Glad to be part of your forum. In the mean time, we will keep looking for answers. Thanks everyone,:dance:

Mark and Sandee

meridian 06-21-2013 09:12 PM

We just went through this. We sold our house in Kalamazoo but already own our boat. We moved aboard full time last week and will start the Loop in 3 weeks. We purchased liveaboard insurance with 1 mil general liability. We went about 3 weeks with no general liability.

swampu 06-22-2013 08:32 AM

You can buy a seperate general liability policy. I had one for years for my contracting business. Talk to your insurance guy.

holts13 06-22-2013 12:41 PM

Thanks guys. I know this sounds crazy but I was told she has never heard of liability insurance without owning a home or renting. Can you give me the company that you bought from? I wonder if Michigan has different laws or something. Thanks again for your help.

dhmeissner 06-23-2013 07:39 AM

Hi and welcome! If you sell your house and don't have a boat yet what do you need liability for? When you buy your boat then insure it. What am I missing? Call Boats US maybe?

Good luck!

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holts13 06-23-2013 10:30 AM

Hi dhmeissner,
My agent told me that liability insurance is received through our home owners policy or a renters policy. She informs me that once we sell or don't rent we no longer have liability insurance covering us from being sued. For instance, if someone were to trip over my leg and smash their face of something, I could be sued and they could go after everything I own and or any money coming in in the future as well. I know life is about taking risks, but it does sort of scare me even for a short time. I don't know if what she's telling me is all true, or if it's just in Michigan or if it's just one company. That's one of the reason's I join here to find out if anyone else has had a similar situation.
Thank you for responding. I hope that I can still get more answers.

Mark

Moonstruck 06-23-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by holts13 (Post 164527)
Hi dhmeissner,
My agent told me that liability insurance is received through our home owners policy or a renters policy. She informs me that once we sell or don't rent we no longer have liability insurance covering us from being sued. For instance, if someone were to trip over my leg and smash their face of something, I could be sued and they could go after everything I own and or any money coming in in the future as well. I know life is about taking risks, but it does sort of scare me even for a short time. I don't know if what she's telling me is all true, or if it's just in Michigan or if it's just one company. That's one of the reason's I join here to find out if anyone else has had a similar situation.
Thank you for responding. I hope that I can still get more answers.

Mark

Don't know if your agent works for one company, or is an independent agent. Liability insurance can be written for all kinds of circumstances. I would think that a good independent agent could cover your risk even if they have to go to the Lloyds market. You do not want to be without liability coverage. In our society where people suit for everything, it is a must to be covered. You could have a wreck in your or a rental car and wind up in bankruptcy. There are agents on this list. Maybe they will chime in on how you could be covered. You will just have to convince an underwriter that you are a good risk. A good agent can help with that.

holts13 06-23-2013 11:53 AM

Thank you Moonstruck, you are absolutely right about law suits today. My agent is independent and I think is working on this for me. She is good, however I don't think our community has a lot of people who have asked about these kind of things, so I think this is new to her. Thank you again for your input. I hope you're right about others chiming in on this. I am feeling better all ready about all of this just with the input you and others are making so far.

Mark

Moonstruck 06-23-2013 12:44 PM

I think the fact that you have been continuously covered and probably no losses can go a long way in convincing an underwriter. Loss ratios are the key to being covered by insurance. Good luck.

dhmeissner 06-24-2013 01:31 PM

Holts, I hear you. But honestly I've never heard of the need for insurance to just walk around in the world. Best of luck to you.

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meridian 06-24-2013 08:59 PM

So, you step off the curb, a car swerves to miss you and runs head on into another car. Thats what liability ins is for.

Pineapple Girl 06-24-2013 09:07 PM

How about a personal umbrella policy (PUP)?

meridian 06-24-2013 09:24 PM

I believe you need an underlying policy first.

Moonstruck 06-24-2013 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by holts13 (Post 164552)
Thank you Moonstruck, you are absolutely right about law suits today. My agent is independent and I think is working on this for me. She is good, however I don't think our community has a lot of people who have asked about these kind of things, so I think this is new to her. Thank you again for your input. I hope you're right about others chiming in on this. I am feeling better all ready about all of this just with the input you and others are making so far.

Mark

Mark, when trying to get a none standard risk covered, it helps if the agency is a major producer for an insurance company. They have worked with them long enough to build trust. They also swing a pretty big stick with the company. An agency that pushes whatever company is offering a trip to Hawaii, or an extra bonus may not have the influence needed to get this done. It's not good to break your chain of continuous coverage.

Pineapple Girl 06-25-2013 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by meridian (Post 164795)
I believe you need an underlying policy first.

Do you have Car insurance? For our pup, we had to have a certain amount of liability on all the underlying policies.

meridian 06-25-2013 12:00 PM

For ours we needed real estate for an umbrella.

Pineapple Girl 06-25-2013 11:31 PM

I saw my agent tonight and asked him. He said you'll need some kind of underlying possession (trying to say, beyond a car) policy to have an umbrella. So a renters policy or if you are living with relatives if you could show their policy covers you. He doubted his company would write an umbrella without a homeowner or renters policy. He also suggested you might want to make sure you have a live aboard policy lined up as they can be hard to come by.


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