Seapiper 35

[backinblue]

The Seapiper was designed for narrow canals and fit into a shipping container.

Alas it was not a boat for me because of one head fwd cabin. I am a little old man with a prostate the size of Texas and a bladder the size of Rhode Island.
I’d need something closer or a bucket or an adult diaper. Oh the joys of being old. (80)

Like my dad used to say, "Getting old is no fun, but it's better than the alternative"

 

[OldDan1943]

Like my dad used to say, "Getting old is no fun, but it's better than the alternative"

OR

Anyone who said, ‘Growing old if fun.’, never got old.

 

[DDW]

The Seapiper was designed for narrow canals and fit into a shipping container.

Well, designed to be trailerable anyway - no way it will fit in a shipping container. But that has nothing to do with the odd deck design. It is a slightly different boat, the deck and accommodation plan made it a very different boat. If they had offered it with a more normal deck and accommodation, they would have had many more takers.

 

[phillippeterson]

We like it just the way it is. But not at that $$$. Would still like to know what is going on with its production. It's interesting that the SeaPiper forum is defunct and even though the SeaPiper website is still up it has no new information on it.

 

[OldDan1943]

Hmmm, some bondo, paint and buffing, good as new

 

[Nick14]

Is this the same boat that was damaged in a propane explosion?

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/2022-seapiper-35-8803061/

The price is now down to $139k.

 

[DDW]

That's the one. Sure wish it was closer to me, I might make an offer. After a very long inspection of course.

 

[mmullins]

And yet the broker discloses nothing in the listing. Classy.

 

[Nick14]

And yet the broker discloses nothing in the listing. Classy.

Yep. One would think that something as non-trivial as a propane tank explosion should be disclosed up front. One would also hope it would be the first thing the broker would bring up with any inquiries. But then, why not disclose it?

When I've searched for a used boat, a history of a propane explosion was not something I'd usually look for or be attracted to. But the price is approaching 'what the hell?' category. I don't know if the Sea Piper 35 is still being made or not, but that price seems like less than half of a new one. Maybe closer to 1/3.

If a close inspection and good survey didn't reveal any structural issues, and if the design works for you, at that price, why not?

 

[OldDan1943]

Yep. One would think that something as non-trivial as a propane tank explosion should be disclosed up front. One would also hope it would be the first thing the broker would bring up with any inquiries. But then, why not disclose it?

When I've searched for a used boat, a history of a propane explosion was not something I'd usually look for or be attracted to. But the price is approaching 'what the hell?' category. I don't know if the Sea Piper 35 is still being made or not, but that price seems like less than half of a new one. Maybe closer to 1/3.

If a close inspection and good survey didn't reveal any structural issues, and if the design works for you, at that price, why not?

My N46 was declared a ‘constructive loss’. I know it has been repaired and sold at least twice. When I questioned broker, she told me, it had to include “constructive loss” for only 2 years. I dont know if it is true. I personally would want the boat’s history to follow, any boat determined to be a constructive loss, for at lot longer than 2 years.

 

[DDW]

And yet the broker discloses nothing in the listing. Classy.

Well that is a broker for you. Their job is to provoke the enquiry. One would hope that before you bought an airline ticket to go look at it, he/she might mention it.

I don't think it will be that hard for a knowledgable person to assess the damage, provided it has not been willfully disguised - and that would also be pretty apparent.

 

[sean9c]

Saw the Seapiper 35 that's now built by Northern Marine today at the Anacortes Trawlerfest, I think it's their hull #1. I liked the layout better than I thought I would, though it's also obvious how small it is at 8-1/2ft wide and with quite a bit of the boat used for cockpits. Some of it looked nicely done, other things definitely not ready for prime time. A little concerning as this is a customer boat that's more than full loaded and a price tag to suit. Sounds to be in the high $600k range. Biggest head scratchers for me were, since the center cockpit drains through big gaps at the bottom of the side doors and that opening is less than a foot above the waterline, what happens when the boat rolls enough to put that opening under water? And it's pretty obvious it will. Probably most concerning, if you assume that the bootstripe was put in the right spot, and with a number of these already built by other builders there is likely data as to where to put it, the bootstripe is in the water, so the assumption is that the boat is heavy. Then when you figure that the immersion rate on a boat this size is north of 1000# /inch, it seems that the boat is really heavy. And I can probably guess that they didn't fill all of the tanks before putting it in a boat show. So even worse.
I was told base price is $359k and the guess is out the door more most buyers at $450k-$500k. I don't know how this would stack up against anything else out there. Though it's likely the only boat you could trailer.

 

[DDW]

Still in line for one as soon as they change the rather odd deck plan. Especially for the PNW and its persistent rain, that is not a winning deck plan. My boat is stored two doors up the hill from the factory, so next time I am up there I will stop in and have a look.