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This one makes me want to own a wood boat. Stabilized, bow thruster, beautiful.




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I like the retro look of this motor sailor ( if it will be not me who must do the varnish ! :) )
But I don't understand this amazing high diesel consumption !?
6/7 kts = 7 to 8 gal per hour !? It means average 4.35 lt per nm I think mistake between gal and liter ? Because 4.35lnm it is more than our actual need at 10 kts
 
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That is a cool boat! Let's form a yachtshare and buy it. And while 500k is nothing to sneeze at, and we all know it's just the ticket to admission...I wonder what it needs? With inflation etc seems reasonable. I'm a sucker for old cool boats, I guess I grew up on John Wyane movies lol.


74’ 7” (22.8m) Custom passage maker was a one-off design ordered by William Weinberg in 1964. The Naval Architect – GEORGE W. MOORE – was given this project and PIONEER became a reality. George W. Moore’s background comes from reestablishing the Royal British Naval fleet after WWII. His extensive knowledge of how to build a ship, not a boat, was very important to Mr. Weinberg. This vessel was built for the purpose of crossing oceans, and it was a must to have an exceptional long range. Using the best equipment and materials was a priority. But the living space was not to be neglected and had to have class according to Mr. Weinberg’s tastes. Thus in 1967 “PIONEER” was launched from San Diego CA. PIONEER has been admired where ever she has landed. Over the years, she has been continually updated. Upgrades through the years have focused on keeping the gorgeous teak, dark walnut and mahogany finishings in place and made beautiful changes to areas that should be updated. Today she boasts a modern flair of interior design that gives off a feeling of comfortable sophistication. PIONEER is currently for sale and moored in Victoria, British Columbia.
Located in the Victoria International Marina with assumable moorage.

 

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This one makes me want to own a wood boat. Stabilized, bow thruster, beautiful.




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That is the coolest boat and only 110k! Talking about inexpensive housing, of course until you start to think about maintenance. But the cool part is Fess Parker. We visited his vineyards in 18, and purchased a 30 Fairchild Scout in Long Beach, Naples CA to be exact, having it shipped to upstate SC. Lesson in there is I just don't have good luck with Ukrainian truckers. The wine is excellent and they have won a number of awards

1961 CheoyLee Trawler TEAKLADYGorgeous solid old teak CheoyLee Trawler. Built in Hongkong. Single Detroit diesel engine. Tremendous live aboard potential. Hauled at Koehler Kraft a couple of years ago. Two heads. Bathtub. Three staterooms. Aft stern amazing. Vessel is like being in a fine piece of furniture. Owned at one time by Fess Parker of Davey Crockett/daniel Boone/Disney fame.
 
That does look like a great boat, that is well priced. I will guess at why it looks so cheap.
1. I bet it would cost a lot more than 100-200K to have it brought back to super nice yacht spec if hired it out. I bet if you brought it into a high quality yard and had them fix all the issues you could easily hit the $800K price you mentioned. (It still might be an ok deal if you love the rest of the boat.
2. That is a SLOW trawler (Similar to mine). A lot of the similar size Nordhavn, Northern marine, etc, advertise a faster cruise speed.
3. No swim step in the back, and high side gates. Makes it hard to swim off of, get in and out of dingy, and get on and off it at the dock. Especially when first coming in when you might not want the boarding steps hanging out in harms way.
4. Deep draft.

This is my current crush. It is right at the $800k price point, and similar in many ways to this boat.
Totally agree with you. That Northern is one hell of a boat. Like it better than their current version which doesn’t have full wrap around decks. Also doesn’t those large areas of glass in the hull which seems to be the recent fad for the last few years. Would buy it in a heart beat if I didn’t have the one I have now. Figure it would be gone by the time I sold this one and would have to sell my other toys as well.
 
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Totally agree with you. That Northern is one hell of a boat. Like it better than their current version which doesn’t have full wrap around decks. Also doesn’t those large areas of glass in the hull which seems to be the recent fad for the last few years. Would buy it in a heart beat if I didn’t have the one I have now. Figure it would be gone by the time I sold this one and would have to sell my other toys as well.
Anyone else notice the interesting exhaust setup on that Northern? It has what looks like a dry muffler and very long line over to the shower nozzle on the down side. I suppose that makes for little chance of ingestion of salt water into the turbo/engine. One would think it's also pretty quiet.
 
Yes there’s a detailed writ up on their site about exhaust. TT pointed out what he thinks is the downside to it. If I understand him correctly it’s corrosion in the system over time. Would think if done with good SS that would be manageable.
 
Interesting to know the consumption of this one at different speed ?
https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/2012-custom-78-transocean-powercat-8699533/
Wow!
"At wind of over 12 knots, and anywhere from 10 degrees onwards off the nose, IETA can self-produce up to 1 knot of additional speed, (or when the wind is to beam)"

Cruising at 6-8 knots she has a range of 4300-7000 nautical miles, and she has 1700g (6500L). So guess would be around 1L/nm at 6kn, and 1.5L/nm at 8kn. Both are decent but not particularly amazing for a good powercat. I bet her 12-15kn values would be really interesting though!

Oh, and 72cm/28.4" props :oops:.

Awesome tool room? check.
Toys and huge rear swim deck and storage/entry? check

Great to see this AND Domino going strong!
 
Wow!
"At wind of over 12 knots, and anywhere from 10 degrees onwards off the nose, IETA can self-produce up to 1 knot of additional speed, (or when the wind is to beam)"

Cruising at 6-8 knots she has a range of 4300-7000 nautical miles, and she has 1700g (6500L). So guess would be around 1L/nm at 6kn, and 1.5L/nm at 8kn. Both are decent but not particularly amazing for a good powercat. I bet her 12-15kn values would be really interesting though!

Oh, and 72cm/28.4" props :oops:.

Awesome tool room? check.
Toys and huge rear swim deck and storage/entry? check

Great to see this AND Domino going strong!
Thanks for this info, but little desapointed
Our former Long Cours 62 doing better at this speed, may be they running generator ?
6kts was 0.68 pnm
7 kts was 0.81lt per nm
8.4 kts was ( full (over) loaded at 34T and just launched with fresh bottom paint ) 1.38lt pnm

And Long-Cours was not the more economical choice ,could be better if :
only one engine, not the turbulence of the dagger's box, only a rudder without (aileron) skeg ?
But above the hull speed the catamaran will probably take advantage :)
Our theoretical autonomy (no wind, no current, take ALL the diesel from the tank)
was at 8.4kts 4700nm, at 7kts 9000nm.
And I am so stupid ...I sold her and now not able to built an another because the price for the hull since 2000 was X by 4 only for the hull.... :-(
 
Never heard of a Davis Trawler but this is kinda cool and not badly priced at $349k.

This beautiful classic Davis trawler has had a number of major upgrades and additions completed over the last 10-15 years. It started out as a 1979 54' Davis trawler. The owners added 8 feet of cockpit and swim step to it's length by a reputable boat yard in Tacoma, WA. The current owners added a tender davit system with a 2005 14' Palmer-Voyager tender with outboard on the stern. Many upgrades include new appliances, granite counter tops in Galley, new cabinetry in salon with pop up TV, new washer/dryer, new heads, counter tops, shower stalls and cabinetry in both heads. The hull has been painted, new varnish with fresh coats this past March/April, 2024. Low time 3208 N Cat diesel mains, 2 Northern Lights gens, one new with only 115 hours on it. Kept in covered moorage on Lake Union for the last 20 plus years. A very clean and well cared for trawler. The covered slip is available for lease to the new owner.




 

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I can't find much information about Davis, the name Davis International did pop up along with DeFever, but that's about it. No real history. Anyone know about Davis? Good looking boat.
 
Hard to believe you could get this much boat for the price of a Seapiper. If this boat would have a positive inspection I think I could interest my wife in it.
 
Hard to believe you could get this much boat for the price of a Seapiper. If this boat would have a positive inspection I think I could interest my wife in it.
This one is also impressive for similar money:

What do the experts think about a 48 year old aluminum hull with teak decking? Nightmare or manageable? Imagine you'd want a very good survey from someone who knew what they were doing.

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This is different. Really like the big windows.


2019 Custom Treworgy Raised Foredeck Cruiser

The 44' 2019, Twin Diesel, semi-displacement raised foredeck cruiser. "TONI MARIE" was built of aluminum, the preferred construction material of the mega-yacht community, military, and coast guard, due to its superiority over fiberglass in the areas of durability, fuel efficiency, maintenance, fire safety and strength.
To stand apart from today's cookie-cutter vessels, she was built to incorporate state-of-the-art conveniences with a luxury profile and interior elegance reminiscent of the 1920's "Lake Union Dream Boats".
"TONI MARIE's" shallow draft makes her ideal for sailing the East Coast, the Great Loop and the Bahamas. She is easy to handle, has a roomy interior, and boasts excellent, 360 degree visibility.
Known for building U.S. Coast Guard Certified metal boats, Mark Treworgy of "Treworgy Custom Boats" has been making sailor's dreams come true since 1976.
Vessel "TONI MARIE" was built as Mark and Toni Treworgy’s personal yacht. She is a true work of art, sure to turn heads wherever she travels.
 

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This is different. Really like the big windows.


2019 Custom Treworgy Raised Foredeck Cruiser

Looks very interesting. Love the retro classic styling. Appears to be laid out more for entertaining/parties than cruising? Wonder what the visibility is from the relatively low helm position.

I doubt that a 44 ft boat can make 16 knots with only 270 hp total, even if they call it ‘semi-displacement’ (it would have to be extremely light to do that).
 

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Sneek is the center of water sports in the province of Friesland, it is not the case that all beautiful boats come from there.

However, there are a few large brokers, such as Van Der Valk, who often offer beautiful boats.

In almost all provinces there are shipyards that build beautiful boats, just a few well-known shipyards; for example, Linssen in the province of Limburg.

Elling, Altena, Moonen Van Der Valk, in the province of Brabant.

Damen in the province of Zeeland.

Jongert in the province of North Holland.

De Vries Lentsch, Pikmeer, Smelne, Aquanaut, Heesen, feadship in the province of Friesland.

Oceanco, in the province of South Holland.

A small selection of a large number of shipyards spread over the Netherlands, I don't know how many shipyards the Netherlands represents, but that will be close to 100.

Greeting



Pascal.
 
This one is also impressive for similar money:

What do the experts think about a 48 year old aluminum hull with teak decking? Nightmare or manageable? Imagine you'd want a very good survey from someone who knew what they were doing.

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That has a really beautiful interior and has clearly been well taken care of over the years. The listing states the hull was sounded for hull integrity, so there should be information on it. I suppose the teak deck attachment would be screwed down, so obviously and area of concern but should be apparent if there are issues and should show up in a good survey. Seems like a lot of boat for the money. Worst case, buy it and get really good at TIG welding if there are issues...
 
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