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Old 02-27-2016, 11:44 PM   #21
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Thanks Al

I didn't know about that kind of rope. Is it any easier to splice than Samson Double Braid?
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Old 02-27-2016, 11:54 PM   #22
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Dunno. I've only spliced the Brait I have. Here's a thread on it.

Respliced anchor rode w/ question
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Old 02-27-2016, 11:57 PM   #23
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I have used a chain grabber for years. It allows me to use a bridle rather than just a single line.
Have a similar grabber, but it is slightly ''scooped' in shape. The twin lines also have rubber "shock absorbers." Of course, a rode largely consisting of nylon rope needn't bother.
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Old 02-28-2016, 12:19 AM   #24
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Because it's not as pretty (wood versus steel) to my eye and would have been completely out of place on my 1977 FG boat with pretty teak trim.

To each his own.
Yes. But wouldn't it have been nice to have solid steel to defend one's self?

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Old 02-28-2016, 12:47 AM   #25
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Sorry, but no Mark, the only similarity between the bow of your boat, and Al's boat is the claw type anchor you both sport. His nice new wooden bowsprit looks beudaful...
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Old 02-29-2016, 06:15 PM   #26
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Looking at the picture of my boat. Should the anchor bridal be from the two side cleats and extend so when slack the anchor hook does not rub the hull?
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Old 02-29-2016, 07:37 PM   #27
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Sorry, but no Mark, the only similarity between the bow of your boat, and Al's boat is the claw type anchor you both sport. His nice new wooden bowsprit looks beudaful...
But, I think he has an Aussie Muir windlass!
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Sorry, but no Mark, the only similarity between the bow of your boat, and Al's boat is the claw type anchor you both sport. His nice new wooden bowsprit looks beudaful...
Nevertheless, steel is stronger than wood (your wooden sword compared to my steel sword). Doubt my Coot would have suffered damage except for possible paint scrape. And no varnish required. Function versus glitz.
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Old 02-29-2016, 07:46 PM   #29
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I have used a chain grabber for years. It allows me to use a bridle rather than just a single line.
I recently made up a similar bridle, using a Sea Dog plate. We spliced the nylon lines to shackles pinned to the plate.
I know people get fond of their anchors, but an "Anchor Bridal" seems a bit much.
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Pgitug, run bridle through forward chocks. I hang on a mooring and anchor out most of the time. My mooring pennant has two 1" poly lines that I run through the 1" chocks and looped over the Sampson Post. At anchor, I'm all 5/16th chain.

I made up my anchor bridle with a galvanized chain hook, attached to galvanized swivel, spliced to 2 lengths of 5/8th three-strand rope. Picture below, you can see my setup, through the chocks, with tube of black anti-chafe at the chocks, and lashed to the forward side cleats on gunwale. I could also tie off bridle on Sampson Post but gunwale is a stronger tie-off point.

I carry a 35# Delta primary. My second roller carries either a 29# folding grappling (pictured) or 20# Bruce, used as lunch hook or when fishing.

With this setup, the boat has taken on Cat 1 hurricanes at mooring, and I've ridden out 60 knot + squalls at anchor.
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Old 03-09-2016, 11:44 AM   #32
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Hey guys give Mark a break.
He's absolutely right.
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The latest issue of PS has an article on chain hooks, spend newsletter but given the cost of marine hardware money well spent. The end result of their study was that every type of chain hook except the cradle hook resulted in a loss of chain strength of around 20%.

The Mantus hook had a 40% reduction in chain strength due to point loading, standard "grab" hooks were 22%. I am not sure how important this information is, since the anchor system never approaches "fail" loading under normal circumstances. Shock loading with a snubber should keep things in a safe margin, but after reading the article if I had an all chain rode I would be using a cradle hook.

Just a note, since I just read the article, latest issue...
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Pgitug, run bridle through forward chocks. I hang on a mooring and anchor out most of the time. My mooring pennant has two 1" poly lines that I run through the 1" chocks and looped over the Sampson Post. At anchor, I'm all 5/16th chain.

I made up my anchor bridle with a galvanized chain hook, attached to galvanized swivel, spliced to 2 lengths of 5/8th three-strand rope. Picture below, you can see my setup, through the chocks, with tube of black anti-chafe at the chocks, and lashed to the forward side cleats on gunwale. I could also tie off bridle on Sampson Post but gunwale is a stronger tie-off point.

I carry a 35# Delta primary. My second roller carries either a 29# folding grappling (pictured) or 20# Bruce, used as lunch hook or when fishing.

With this setup, the boat has taken on Cat 1 hurricanes at mooring, and I've ridden out 60 knot + squalls at anchor.

Looks like a nice set up.
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Interesting timeing on this thread. I just made a bridle for some nice folks I met on the Cruisers Forum. I offered them the plate from Seadog, a regular chain grab hook and the new chain hook from Suncor. They went with the regular grab hook.
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:46 PM   #36
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I tried using a regular chain Hook, I could not get it to reliably stay on the chain. as the chains hook does not have constant pressure and sometimes no pressure at all
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Wonder what the strength reduction is using the Sea Dog plate I just fitted up? Hope it does better than the Mantus.
I shied away from the ordinary bear claw hook thinking it would put uneven stress on a link. Last thing you want is a hole in your chain.
Years ago I had some involvement with lifting straps, the kind used to lift boats(they had failed due to an inferior repair). I saw diagrams of different methods of attachment and how the straps were brought together to the lifting attachment point. I don`t recall details, but do recall how it was done produced significant differences in the SWL.
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Interesting timeing on this thread. I just made a bridle for some nice folks I met on the Cruisers Forum. I offered them the plate from Seadog, a regular chain grab hook and the new chain hook from Suncor. They went with the regular grab hook.
You met us over there too, Parks?

Yes, we went with the traditional hook... for now... but have you make the snubber so different hooks can be swapped out easily should we opt for that. Honestly, we are currently "fair weather" boaters, so the newest and fanciest stuff really wouldn't do us much good. Good old reliable is fine for now. If we start cruising full-time like DaddyO or a few others here, we will probably upgrade. We'll see.
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Hi Tom, I'm easily confused.
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The slotted chain plate style like I and others use, if reasonably thick, is just a beefier version of a cradle hook. I haven't seen the Seadog version so can't comment on it.

Traditional chain hooks put a twisting torque on the chain, which contributes to their load reduction issue.
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