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Old 09-07-2017, 07:12 AM   #1
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Trawler sunk in WA

https://www.passagemaker.com/trawler...ivor-airlifted

Everybody's nightmare. This fellow was evidently well prepared.
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Old 09-07-2017, 07:47 AM   #2
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That's a really big tender for a 45 trawler. He must have been towing it? I'm scratching my head over this one.
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Old 09-07-2017, 01:28 PM   #3
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I'm scratching my head over this one.
Why? It seems pretty straightforward to me. Boat hits submerged object & taking on water. Skipper calls for help, abandons his boat and goes into his dinghy & waits for help to arrive. Help comes, they take him aboard and tow in his dinghy.

People often tow large dinghies in the PNW. What's causing the head shaking?


Not being argumentative, just curious.
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Old 09-07-2017, 02:03 PM   #4
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I think Twisted's point ...

is that a 17' tender on a 45' trawler is an odd combo as the tender is 37.8% as long as the trawler.
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is that a 17' tender on a 45' trawler is an odd combo as the tender is 37.8% as long as the trawler.
Let's see - we use a 9 foot dingy on a 40 foot loa boat. 22.5%. A 37.8% equivalent for our boat would be a 15' tender or dingy. Yes, that would be very big given our boat's size. Huh. Never thought of the size ratio in those terms.
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Old 09-07-2017, 02:16 PM   #6
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Wow! The poor Fella. Damn shame.




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Old 09-07-2017, 02:25 PM   #7
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...Everybody's nightmare. This fellow was evidently well prepared.
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Wow! The poor Fella. Damn shame...
From the article, it sounds like he was lucky he was towing. The accident was after dark and he may have lost consciousness. Not the best time to be trying to launch a dinghy and abandoning a boat by yourself.
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Soon I'm going to have a 12' tender on a 30' boat.
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Old 09-07-2017, 04:31 PM   #9
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Relative volume can be a consideration.
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Old 09-07-2017, 05:57 PM   #10
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I always watch ahead, everywhere. Lot more debris in the water since I was commercial fishing. It can't be all from Japan. I winter on a river and see many semi submerged logs go by. Once a small tree standing straight up, turned out to be a branch with the whole tree underwater. Also a couple trees, anchored by their roots, bobbing up and under from the current, gradually working downstream. CG not interested. 40' steel launch service boat had one come up as they were passing over. Took out shaft, strut, and rudder on one side.
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Bet he has a lot of insurance
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Old 09-07-2017, 06:03 PM   #12
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I'm just really skeptical of people. That's a large tender to be towing for a 45' boat out in open water, 10 miles off shore. Not unheard of, but definitely at the fringe. And a convenient escape vessel. And a convenient bump on the head so one can't answer any questions about what happened.
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Before questioning his tender size, I'd want to know a lot more info. Like--did he often tow a tender? That size tender? Did he often boat by himself? Where was he headed and where did he start?


I agree lots of questions here but I'd hesitate to jump to any conclusions without that missing info.
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Wow,speculation abounds. Maybe he was prepared with a ditch bag,etc like we all kind of preach? Maybe just a trawler owner/operator who had a boat go out from under him and was prepared for an emergency situation.
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There are a lot of unanswered questions with this incedent. Location suggest he was doing an over night transit alone or looking for a good place to scuddle a boat unobserved. Being knocked uncouncious and holing a trawler suggest hitting something very large. A log or dead head is not likely to knock someone off their feet. This leaves whale or container, both possible but not heard of this happening in this area before.
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This is a tough crowd. If he was under-prepared he'd be crucified for lack of forsight....if he's adequately prepared...he's suspicious.

How deep is it there ? Will an insurance company send a diver to the vessel before they cut a check ? Are there deeper spots that would be easily accessible to scuttle a boat ?
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38' and I tow a 17' center console, some must think that is suspicious.
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It's one thing to tow that on a river, but a whole 'nuther thing to tow it in open ocean. I smell a rat, too...but hope I'm wrong.
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38' and I tow a 17' center console, some must think that is suspicious.
Where will you scuttle your boat, since that is clearly your plan?
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Everyone here works for the insurance company, it appears. Let's hope for his sake there actually was insurance in place.

While in Maine every summer I run a 36' lobster boat turned picnic boat, and we tow a 13' Whaler almost everywhere we go. A royal PITA in some cases, but a fantastic tender when you want one. Many times I've wished the Whaler was a little bigger. I bet he loves that 17-footer when he's using it.
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