Truth about V-births

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billtwd

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I've only been in a couple of extra small v-births, like a 26' Regal. I can't really use the size for comparison (to a trawler) but size wasn't necessarily the concern. The v-birth seems to have a weird, eerie feeling. It also seems difficult to move around in and doesn't seem comfortable. To me it seems as if anyone who got stuck with the v-birth for more than a few days/nights wouldn't be very happy about it. Am I wrong?
 
My first boat was a 14' aluminum hull outboard skiff. That was way better than having to fish from shore, but it wasn't long before I started thinking about how my boating experience would be hugely improved with only a small step up. That began the succession of boats that I have owned over the years, with each boat a great improvement over the last. I remember the days when I longed for a cuddy cabin -- having a v-berth to get out of the elements and sleep comfortably was a vast improvement over sleeping on deck. I still remember being hit in the face by flying fish (happened routinely) and waking in the morning covered in dew. I don't believe I ever once felt that my v-berth felt weird or eerie. I only upgraded that boat because my wife wanted a shower separate from the head, and a place to leave her hair dryer plugged in.
 
I (kind of) resisted the temptation to make some pithy joke about Caesarean section births. Not sure weird or eerie is how I would describe sleeping in a V berth, though I never have slept in one. The trend does seem to be toward walk around berths in the bow, but that would probably be more weird or eerie for two kids to share than a V berth. Guess it depends on your perspective. Isn't sleeping in a V berth almost exactly like sleeping in a narrow twin bed?
 
The smaller the boat the more clammy the feel. A 26' boat is going to have a fairly narrow V birth in a small space. Dew and moisture plus the lack of air conditioning will cure you of liking V births. When you get into larger boats, a V birth can be as large as a king size bed with very comfy mattresses and all the AC comforts of home.
 
Years ago we had a 26' Sea Ray and slept in the V birth. I thought it was pretty comfy, but we were young. It got more roomy for sleeping with feet forward. That way, more shoulder room, but that probably isn't an issue with bigger boats' V berths.
 
Another way to try sleeping in a [small boat] v-berth (and come to think of it might be easier for birthing as well) is, counterintuitively, head to the bow. That way you can see out into the boat and the wide open spaces beyond. Also you don't have to "turn around" when getting in and out. Might be best for one person, but it could work for two depending on the berth/people.
 
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My 37 Sportfish had a great vee berth. I always sleep head forward and this one had cuddling room at the bow for 2 adults.

Many boats I can't say that is true and depending on the boats trim, one way or the other could be bad.

Just about every boat and most items aboard that boat have to be sampled a little to determine whether the feature is good, OK or not OK.
 
I spent a lot of nights in V berths after a day of chartering. Can't say as I remembered those days as I was usually sleep deprived and getting up 5 or 6 hours after falling asleep.

Underway is completely different. Absolutely hated the slapping of waves against the hull.

As mentioned, size and mattress quality are key components. Also, air conditioning or dehumidification are important. Really don't like being damp in bed.

Was very fond of my island berth in my trawler.

Ted
 
For our three big boats over our boating career we started from a 47 that had a Jack and Jill aft and a V birth forward that we affectionately called "the cubby". We always chose the cubby for ourselves. Next was a 54 that had an athwartship queen that you entered from one side only. Now a walk around queen. I liked them all fine and I just sleep there so don't really care enough for that to influence me away from buying the best boat on other accounts. Staterooms in general are not a deal killer and are not at the top of the triage list for me as I find other things more important in choosing a boat. I do consider the above sea level sleeping accommodations of our current ride to be a significant bonus aside from how it is configured. I do not sleep in a stateroom while underway even if off watch. Pilot birth or saloon but at helm level for sure.
 
Originally, Weebles was built with the head forward and a pullman bunk to starboard. It was about the size of a full-size bed. Even before I was old and fat it was a pretty tight. So we reconfigured the stateroom into a v-berth. Good improvement over the double bunk. Each bunk on the v-berth is 32" wide so pretty spacious. You can see the two 4" round HVAC vents on the forward bulkhead that blow on each person.

Was good change for us, but at 36', Weebles is a pretty small boat so it's all relative.

Peter

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The reason I'm asking is because I would really like for one of my adult daughters to come with me on the boat for possibly a long time. It would take some convincing. I would feel terrible if I was able to convince her to come with and then stick her in the v-birth and have her hate it and regret coming. If that happened, I'm sure I would give up the master birth and take the v for myself, which I don't necessarily think I would like but I could manage.
 
When I think of V berths I think of all the boats before current one. They were cramped and you had th sleep feet forward.
Now we have a master berth which happens to be in the front , the V area. But the forward part is 6-7 feet across, aft has a beam of 9-10. I cannot call it a V as either side is accessible.
I suppose over 40 footers will have more V berth space where you sleep head forward.
My GB36 had aft Jack&Jill, was full beam wide, spacious. But, that space was near half of livable area and lost to daytime use.
 
The reason I'm asking is because I would really like for one of my adult daughters to come with me on the boat for possibly a long time. It would take some convincing. I would feel terrible if I was able to convince her to come with and then stick her in the v-birth and have her hate it and regret coming. If that happened, I'm sure I would give up the master birth and take the v for myself, which I don't necessarily think I would like but I could manage.
What size/type of boat are we talking about? Trawlers over 36-feet generally have pretty comfortable v-berths.

There are some advantages of a v-berth. Top of list for me is if you're at anchor, it's the best ventilation on the boat. An island berth in the forward stateroom typically has your head forward, stuffed under the foredeck. But that depends on the climate.

My wife and I just got done spending 4-months full time on Weebles in the v-berth shown above. We'd prefer an island king, but that ain't in the cards for any boat under 50-feet or so.

Peter
 
What size/type of boat are we talking about? Trawlers over 36-feet generally have pretty comfortable v-berths.

There are some advantages of a v-berth. Top of list for me is if you're at anchor, it's the best ventilation on the boat. An island berth in the forward stateroom typically has your head forward, stuffed under the foredeck. But that depends on the climate.

My wife and I just got done spending 4-months full time on Weebles in the v-berth shown above. We'd prefer an island king, but that ain't in the cards for any boat under 50-feet or so.

Peter
Peter, mostly during that time there was only one of you sleeping, what a waste of king size bed.
 
Mine is pretty good as is. Plenty of room for 2 large people. Heads aft of course, that door you see forward is the anchor chain locker.

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The fish is gone, but plenty of room for a TV.
 
I just realized my auto correct changed all my, "berths" to "births". lmao - This thread has been more helpful than I anticipated. I had previous thoughts of taking the v-berth for myself because it is closer to the helm. I also don't anticipate trying to sleep while underway since I would be driving so water slapping the bow probably wouldn't be too bad. I highly doubt I'll be getting anything under 40' so maybe my concern isn't justified.
 
Hardly...
Wishful thinking at best. obviously a failed attempt at levity.

HW
I belived you, if you had said six I don't know if I would have been in disbelief or jealous! 😜
 
The p/o of my vessel cut out a couple walls and turned the galley-down and v-berth into a supersized galley with a long countertop, and I turned it further into a galley/workshop since I'm a mobile marine mechanic. I always hated the v-berth designs and couldn't sleep comfortably in them at 6' tall and large-ish, although I am a bit thinner now. I sleep in the queen size bed in the aft cabin and I enjoy having the open design, although I spend most of my time being a dockside liveaboard here in Seattle, so can't yet speak to how it works out in open waters at anchor for days or weeks at a time. I don't have a crew, other than my newly adopted cat, and my gf that comes over when she's not working. So I don't have need for more beds, and I have slept on the salon sofa a few times so I know it is doable for one person 6' or less, in case a friend joins and needs overnight accommodations. I gutted my last boat which was a 1971 Columbia 34' because I wanted an open custom design, but I didn't have the skills to finish my vision; When I went boat shopping again a couple of years later and saw this one had already been done decently then I jumped at the chance to have this unique setup without all the work of converting it myself.
 
My wife and I prefer the V-Berth in our trawler and my son gets the mid cabin.
Loads of room and when either one gets up , you don't disturb the other.
Would we prefer a center line queen, perhaps, but is it worth the work to convert?
Not for us.
Each side is about 80 inches long and there is 6' 2" of headroom.
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Previous boats had the standard split V berth, or the full V berth, now I like our current V berth, not a queen but plenty of room.
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Just as a counterpoint (which is not to say those are not lovely staterooms, but just that everyone has their preferences), I often don't like that type of "walk around" v-berth because it puts your head under the foredeck and I want my head to be out in the open by the portholes or overhead hatch. (There can be exceptions of course.)

So if I'm going to use a v-berth, I prefer the more old-fashioned type where your toes are in the bow, and your head is aft right next to the ports and below the hatch. Those often also give you a "lean back" so you can sit up in bed and read with your head by the porthole. So like @mvdunwaitin 's photo.

Or a pullman, which is actually my favorite. Reminds me of sleeper car in a train :)

But walk around's as pictured by @SteveK and @O C Diver are very popular, so it just depends.
 
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