Seeking new stove info

[mdresdner]

I have the attached princess stove installed in my 2003 Grand Banks. It takes forever to preheat, the thermostats inconsistent, and it must not have any insulation! Bottom line, I’d like to replace it, and I wondered if anyone had suggestions on stoves with a cooktop that might be a good choice. I do love to cook and it would be nice if I could have a convection oven

 

[Nordlund Xpress]

We are going through the sample evaluation on our 2007 model. So far we come up with the following options for a 20" opening, electric oven and induction stove top. 1) Force 10 (mixed reviews but pretty much a drop in replacement, 2) GN Espace Ocean Chef 3, UK based, no US dealers, shipping costs, excellent reviews, but 3-4x the cost. OceanChef 3 gimballed induction cooker | highly efficient stove with induction hob, electric oven and grill | sailboats and yachts | GN Espace or 3) full 20" apartment unit by Avanti, Forno or Elite (mixed reviews, but least expensive option, full counter height, storage drawer), or 4) fill in counter with a piece of granite - say black for contrast and install separate oven and induction cooktop. Will involve a small bit of carpentry and the custom granite piece. There are multiple 2-3 burner induction cook tops that will fit in 20" space as well as a number of oven options. Right now we are making do with the Princess.

 

[tiltrider1]

There is a wide variety of sizes when it comes to ranges and boats. My sail boat required a rather small gimbaled range. My power boats all used non gimbaled 22” ranges. I am not sure what size you are looking for.

My Uniflite came with a Magic Chef, it was the best and lasted 30 years. It was replaced by a Tapan that is still going strong 15 years later. Sadly, neither are currently available.

My current boat is on its 3rd range. Currently, I have a suburban. It’s ok, better than the previous 2 units but nothing like the Magic Chef.

I wish I could give some advice but I am still searching for that high quality boat range.

 

[ksanders]

We are going to replace our princess stove/oven with a force 10 unit.

They work great, are supported, and are easy to install.

 

[Retriever]

I’ve owned a few Force 10 gas ranges, both the 3- and 4-burner models. None have had satisfactory oven performance. Think max temperatures under 350 degrees and hours-long preheating. The little stove burners produce about as many BTUs as a bic lighter—perfect if you love simmering!

Last week I installed a Dickinson Mediterranean. The oven is much better than any of the Force 10s I’ve had, but it’s not as good as even a basic home range. It’s quick to burn the bottom of baked goods, and a little slow to come up to temperature with the added mass of a pizza stone (to prevent said burning). The stove burners seem more powerful than the Force 10. Two of them are even sufficiently low output to simmer, while also providing enough heat to scramble an egg when needed.

 

[Caballero II]

I have the attached princess stove installed in my 2003 Grand Banks. It takes forever to preheat, the thermostats inconsistent, and it must not have any insulation! Bottom line, I’d like to replace it, and I wondered if anyone had suggestions on stoves with a cooktop that might be a good choice. I do love to cook and it would be nice if I could have a convection oven

We replaced the cheesy Princess (POS) on our GB 36 with a 3-burner Force 10 and have been happy with it. I think I would be happier with a 2-burner model if there was such a thing. There just is not enough room to use 3 burners, and they deny space to get more heat under a pan. As Kevin mentioned, the are readily available and are nearly a plug and play fit. They are good-looking as well

 

[Caballero II]

I have the attached princess stove installed in my 2003 Grand Banks. It takes forever to preheat, the thermostats inconsistent, and it must not have any insulation! Bottom line, I’d like to replace it, and I wondered if anyone had suggestions on stoves with a cooktop that might be a good choice. I do love to cook and it would be nice if I could have a convection oven

I just checked the Force 10 website and they do make 2-burner gas stoves. I would seriously suggest you consider 2 burners rather than 3 burners. I wish I had known better when I purchased mine. Also, the oven door slides under the oven so as to take up no space when you are putting in or taking out items from the oven. They are gimbaled in the athwartship axis, but we never cook when underway so we leave the stove gimbal locked.

 

[3rdOrderEffect]

I’ve owned a few Force 10 gas ranges, both the 3- and 4-burner models. None have had satisfactory oven performance. Think max temperatures under 350 degrees and hours-long preheating. The little stove burners produce about as many BTUs as a bic lighter—perfect if you love simmering!

Last week I installed a Dickinson Mediterranean. The oven is much better than any of the Force 10s I’ve had, but it’s not as good as even a basic home range. It’s quick to burn the bottom of baked goods, and a little slow to come up to temperature with the added mass of a pizza stone (to prevent said burning). The stove burners seem more powerful than the Force 10. Two of them are even sufficiently low output to simmer, while also providing enough heat to scramble an egg when needed.

I have a 3 burner force 10 on my boat and I can't comment on the oven performance as I've never used it, but as far as the burners on the cooktop I find them quite satisfactory even for boiling water for pasta, etc. Capable of a sear as much as a simmer. I do think the design of my 3 burner, with the larger burner in the back center and the smaller burners in the front corners is backward. I'd probably prefer a 2 burner with them both centered front-to-back

 

[Nordlund Xpress]

Seems that the original inquiry was about replacing an electric induction cooktop and oven, not a gas one, per the picture of the original Princess stove. Changes up the option

 

[mvweebles]

Seems that the original inquiry was about replacing an electric induction cooktop and oven, not a gas one, per the picture of the original Princess stove. Changes up the option

I agree - was going to mention the same - he appears to have an electric stove, likely 120VAC.

Although I have a gas Princess 3-burner, my situation has some similarities so I'll give my current thinking. My Princess is end-of-life and while it has served well, I will replace with a 2-burner induction drop-in burner and fill the space beneath with a fancy toaster oven such as the Breville. While I don't have the explosion concerns many do with gas, I just don't care for the smallish gas ranges on the market (@Retriever expressed it well). Plus they create a lot of heat in the cabin which might be nice for the PNW, but sucks in the tropics. Finally, induction hobbs are fantastic to cook on.

As an aside, I've recently added an air fryer to my home cooking arsenal (a "basket style" as recommended by Americas Test Kitchen) and have found it very useful, so much so that I doubt I'll replace the Breville toaster oven that Hurricane Helene destroyed back in September. So I might alter my remodel thinking for Weebles.

Bottom line is I just don't care for the gas ranges on the market in the US. Plus induction is fantastic. My recommendation for the OP is, if he's a bit handy, to ditch the range and consider induction cooktop plus some sort of electric oven in the lower cavity.

Peter

 

[Nordlund Xpress]

That't the path we are most likely to go. I've only found 2 marine oven/induction cooktop combo options, one is the Electric Force 10 and one the GN Espace. By separating the two, lots of induction cook tops open up including high end Miele, Jennair, etc. combined with ovens - many of the 20" size were designed for the RV market. We have a convection microwave oven over the stove top with an exhaust fan and rarely use the oven - my wife is lobbying for a Fisher Paykel drawer style dishwasher in its space!

 

[Caballero II]

Seems that the original inquiry was about replacing an electric induction cooktop and oven, not a gas one, per the picture of the original Princess stove. Changes up the option

You're right, and I didn't notice. As Gilda Radner's Emily Litella said, "never mind".

I'm not into running the generator, so I'm sticking with propane

 

[NoRain]

That't the path we are most likely to go. I've only found 2 marine oven/induction cooktop combo options, one is the Electric Force 10 and one the GN Espace. By separating the two, lots of induction cook tops open up including high end Miele, Jennair, etc. combined with ovens - many of the 20" size were designed for the RV market. We have a convection microwave oven over the stove top with an exhaust fan and rarely use the oven - my wife is lobbying for a Fisher Paykel drawer style dishwasher in its space!

The dishwasher is an absolute treat. As is the replacement of our original “marine” Force10 electric range, with a Bosch induction stove top and separate Fulgor Milano true convection oven.

 

[NoRain]

Whoops, forgot to include “before” photo

 

[Ertyqway]

Oh man! I wish I had room for all that stuff in my galley. I am super jealous.

 

[amapola]

We removed our old Princess and replaced it with a glass cooktop. For an over, I have a Sharp Grill-2-Convection microwave/convection oven combination. It bakes fine and doesn't heat up the galley like the Princess.

 

[Ken E.]

We replaced the original Princess with a Force 10. It's a drop-in replacement and does a good job.

 

[jtdums]

We just pulled our princess propane unit and have substituted induction burners and a "do everything" Ninja Flip Air fryer combo unit. Although sold as a countertop appliance, we have found we love its speed and versatility. Not as large as a full size oven, so no roast chickens in our future, but it is a willing trade off. Bonus is the space that it opened up for what is now "pantry" storage. (although that dishwasher is making me pretty envious.)