Sail to Trawler - Gone with the Wynns opens the floodgates???

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Mambo42 said:
In their last video they stated at least 880.000, but possibly even more. 800 was their max bid, but that was surpassed by someone else and then they bid twice more as far as I understand.
But that is only the bid, after that comes 16 % auction fee, which is about 130.000 at 800 K, but if they bought it for 880, we are talking 140 K extra, making is 1.020.000 euro and that is 1.180.000 in USD.
Now add stabilizers and other items, that will cost around 200.000 USD total and we are looking at about 1.4 million USD.

For that price they could have almost bought a brand new Nordhavn 51 or this one, which is also offered by DeValk and which is in tiptip condition.
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TERRANOVA 68 for sale | Built by: Terra Nova Shipyards | Built: 2008 | Dimensions: 19.40x5.90x1.60m | Material: GRP | 2x MAN D2876LE404 diesel
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Well jeez, when you look at it like that, it makes even less sense. At $1.4M, there are a lot of boats out there that seem like they'd be a much better fit for the intended mission. But it's not my monkey, not my circus. Interested to see how this one plays out.
 
slowgoesit said:
Holy Cow! That at least TWICE the boat as the globemaster, and less money too
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And that one has crossed the ocean already once. I have seen a video where it was cruising in the Caribbean. The current owners have been cruising around the Med for 5 years, comes with a ton of spareparts and everything has been perfectly maintained.
This current boat they boat on auction, but it has been offered by DeValk and they actually visited DeValk before putting an offer in. I know DeValk (I bought my boat through them) and am pretty sure they told them about this Terranova as well. It is lying in Barcelona, which is a 3 hour flight from Amsterdam, so am wondering why they did not want to take that into consideration. The Terranova is CAT A rated, zero speed stabilization and can go to places where this Globemaster cannot go.
This whole Globemaster simply does not make any sense to me.
 
Mambo42 said:
And that one has crossed the ocean already once. I have seen a video where it was cruising in the Caribbean. The current owners have been cruising around the Med for 5 years, comes with a ton of spareparts and everything has been perfectly maintained.
This current boat they boat on auction, but it has been offered by DeValk and they actually visited DeValk before putting an offer in. I know DeValk (I bought my boat through them) and am pretty sure they told them about this Terranova as well. It is lying in Barcelona, which is a 3 hour flight from Amsterdam, so am wondering why they did not want to take that into consideration. The Terranova is CAT A rated, zero speed stabilization and can go to places where this Globemaster cannot go.
This whole Globemaster simply does not make any sense to me.
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Good catch on that boat. Impressive. Certainly shows the difference between a new base boat and a fully commissioned one.

Nice boat - well priced it seems

Peter
 
You need to take into account the "green agenda" the Wynn's seem to want to follow, which is a "in" thing to do to garner followers. The boat they bought seems to fit the lifestyle and optics they appear to portray. Hybrid drive systems like what they did on the HH often appear to not meet expectations, not that that was mentioned in whatever settlement agreement they made with HH. The reality is power boats that travel anywhere use diesel, just like the motor home lifestyle they monetized prior to getting into boats. While the boat they bought looks cool and probably is a fine coastal boat it's no passagemaker, with all that glass it better have a huge diesel boiler otherwise its parka time. While I will agree they portray a "boating" lifestyle something always seems a little off.. almost like actors "playing" mariners that are not quite believable. The new boat will more than likely pay for itself on the likes of their followers which is more than likely the goal
Hollywood
 
I think that Tera Nova would be far too much boat for the Wynns. There is a lot of complexity to that boat and I don't see Mr. or Mrs. Wynn as capable of troubleshooting and repairing a boat of that complexity or size. A single Volvo engine that you can ignore hidden under the deck is a better option for them, and when it breaks it will be good drama worthy of some really eye catching click bait "Our engine just exploded!" When in reality, a small sensor will have failed due to being covered in salt water from the leaking hatch and there is no way to access it without pulling the engine. Just think of the drama and views!
 
Think of the drama that will unfold as they discover all the things discussed here! My guess is maybe they already know some of this stuff, and can't wait for the drama. Lot's of clicks. Maybe that's the whole point.
 
lwarden said:
I think that Tera Nova would be far too much boat for the Wynns. There is a lot of complexity to that boat and I don't see Mr. or Mrs. Wynn as capable of troubleshooting and repairing a boat of that complexity or size. A single Volvo engine that you can ignore hidden under the deck is a better option for them, and when it breaks it will be good drama worthy of some really eye catching click bait "Our engine just exploded!" When in reality, a small sensor will have failed due to being covered in salt water from the leaking hatch and there is no way to access it without pulling the engine. Just think of the drama and views!
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Indeed, I don't see them doing what Gus was doing in his latest video. That rebuild of that waterpump is something not everyone is capable of.
But I think you have the correct assessment, most likely this is all for making money. Nothing wrong with that, but would be nice if they would be honest about it.

For whoever is interested, this is what Gus was doing

 
Mambo42 said:
For whoever is interested, this is what Gus was doing

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The accidental discovery of that corroded water pipe was a blessing. Makes me wonder how many other "time bombs" might be aboard that old, large vessel.


The Wynns new boat is neat, but that engine room and configuration makes me break out into a cold sweat of anxiety.
 
Barking Sands said:
The accidental discovery of that corroded water pipe was a blessing. Makes me wonder how many other "time bombs" might be aboard that old, large vessel.


The Wynns new boat is neat, but that engine room and configuration makes me break out into a cold sweat of anxiety.
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When I saw that pipe I realized that inspecting my own boat will become a bit more thorough and now that I am looking to buy a different boat I will include all these items in my search as well. On my current boat changing an oil cooler will take about 15 min. If I have to do all the work Gus was doing to exchange his I need to hire a company, since I don't have all the tools available. That would become a 15 h job (taking it out and putting it in), which means a hefty bill.
And that pipe is indeed extremely scary, but can happen with older boats. I am not looking for a brand new boat, so things like this are realistic issues.

That engine room of the Wynns is an absolute no no for me, I also have no idea who and why it was designed like this. Did the builder realize in the end that he had to put an engine somewhere ?
 
I watched the latest video from Gus last night. Pretty entertaining. He could spend the next few years going through the boat working full time and still likely not correct all the issues with it, but he also tries to enjoy it and make cruising videos to keep viewers who aren't into the mechanical stuff entertained.
The corroded coupling was a miss on his part, probably due to the vast number of other things to attend to. It looked like someone had put a steel or cast iron fitting into the bronze elbow and that was just a timebomb. He got very lucky there.
He certainly does some sketchy things that make me cringe, like hitting a pipe wrench with a sledge hammer, or jacking the engine up without shimming it up along the way, but he seems to get away with these things and they make it more entertaining. Looking forward to part 2 of the haulout next week.
 
Gus seems to have access to all the latest tools as well. Does he work at Southport?

As for his methods, reminiscent of many backyard mechanics on UTube that "git 'er done" but typically with hammers and prybars rather than the proper tools. Seems with the tools at his disposal he has the stuff to do it right. Perhaps not enough drama that way?

All that said, I find his videos to be educational for what to do as well as what not to do. The guy has a great attitude when things go wrong and to me that makes him very likeable. He speaks in layman's terms and I typically understand what he's talking about even when he's going in circles. As Utuber's go, he seem more like a genuine person to me.
 
Mambo42 said:
And that one has crossed the ocean already once. I have seen a video where it was cruising in the Caribbean. The current owners have been cruising around the Med for 5 years, comes with a ton of spareparts and everything has been perfectly maintained.
This current boat they boat on auction, but it has been offered by DeValk and they actually visited DeValk before putting an offer in. I know DeValk (I bought my boat through them) and am pretty sure they told them about this Terranova as well. It is lying in Barcelona, which is a 3 hour flight from Amsterdam, so am wondering why they did not want to take that into consideration. The Terranova is CAT A rated, zero speed stabilization and can go to places where this Globemaster cannot go.
This whole Globemaster simply does not make any sense to me.
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The Man engines, totaling 1,260 hp, do not fit their green agenda. I also recalled they wanted to cruise northerly latitudes. The exposed running gear on the Terranova probably didn’t appeal to them. The aluminum hull of the Globemaster is all the rage now for “expedition” yachts. Let’s not forget the name too! “Globemaster” means you can conquer the world right? Only a sailor would purchase that boat. i.e. it’s normal to be on an exposed cockpit, so the engine access didn’t register red flags it should have. Think of sailboat engines stuffed under the cockpit stairs leading down to the salon. No way anyone traveling distances would buy that boat, which is why it went to auction.
 
The one thing I like about Gus is that he does not know when to quit and he shows everyone you don't need to be a millionaire to run a larger boat. How he pays the fuel for this boat is a different story :)
But his boat is never going to win a price in a beauty contest, but he does not even try to do that. He is living the dream of every boater who dreams of owning a large comfortable yacht. He shows that with the right attitude you can live large and nobody is going to take that away from him.
If I have to compare him to other youtubers or other role models like rappers etc, I take Gus every single time. He is not afraid to work hard, he does not care about what he looks like or what others think about him. He is the eternal optimist and if anyone needs to be reminded of what can be done when you put your mind to it.......just look at Gus.
Would some of us do it different ? Maybe. Is it according to the book...the way how he is doing it ? Not really, but it is within his budget and it makes it possible to live the life he wants to live.
Will it last forever ? Not really, but what he has now..........nobody is going to take that away from him.
 
Yeah I like Gus' videos. They also make me happy that I don't own a 70' 1970's Broward! The scale of everything is really intimidating, and the number of complex systems is mind boggling. Very cool that someone of his age and abilities is out there doing it and sharing with the world. I do wonder what his budget is & how his finances work; even with all his DIY ability & access to (presumably) cheap yard fees, haul outs & access to top notch tool shops, the expenses have to be considerable.

Also, having to jack your engine up to change an oil cooler... ouch! I can change the oil cooler on my Lehman 120's in five minutes with a brand new one that costs $150 or so (as far as I recall).
 
Gus is really an unbelievable young man, I personally don’t know of anyone his age that has his skills. I think he could just about fix anything. He’s on his third boat now, I believe he had his own auto shop before transitioning to boating, he works a couple jobs all winter, can drive a semi. His attitude when it comes to repairs, just get after it, and fix whatever needs fixing that breaks while doing repairs. Seems nothing scares him in anyway. I think he’s very thrifty with his funds, he doesn’t just blow money.
His work ethic has definitly helped me on my boat
 
mvweebles said:
I happened to see that episode. They found a really nice home for their pets on a small farm in Colorado. They seemed to take a lot of time and effort to re-home the pets properly (2-3 cats as I recall). They were traveling to New Zealand and Australia and just couldn't make it happen.

I've met several longtime international cruisers with pets. Each and every one of them have had to make some pretty big compromises and endure some stress because of their pets. Many restaurants and museums are off limits. They often have trouble renting a car or finding a taxi that will take them. Finding pet food and vets can be a challenge. I personally have no problem with someone saying their pet and their cruising dream are mutually exclusive. But I also have no problem with owners who say once my vet bills hit a certain amount, I'm done.

I respect what pet owners do. Until 10-years ago or so, I had dogs and cats. And I worked on a ranch when I was young so have always been around animals. Bruno, my dog from when I was in my 20s, still makes an occasional cameo appearance in my dreams. But I wouldn't alter my life for an animal. No judgement for those who do, but for me, wouldn't happen.

Peter
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I disagree....If I make a commitment to someone, particularly a child or animal, it should be honored. I loved The Wynns' content right up until that episode when I learned they are frauds...doing it all for fame.

In the case of said children or animals, particularly rescue animals..that's a life commitment. Not something to let go of when it doesn't suit my life circumstances or for that matter take on when I am unable to honor the commitment.

As far as travel is concerned...yes..it is more difficult. But it is conquerable. At one point in our RV we had 2 dogs and 2 cats. As most of them have aged out we now only have one animal and we can travel more. Its not any kind of problem with the right kind of training, vetrinary support and early communication with our country's of arrival.

That said reading the rest of the thread it appears that the Wynns have chosen and craft unsuitable for crossing oceans which was their first goal all along so whatever....more fame for clicks I suppose.

Ch
 
mvweebles said:
Maybe no credible builder wanted to work with them?

Peter
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There were a lot of builders who wanted to work with them, I would imagine that the Wynns are great customers. The truth is, they had other reasons (which I haven't heard them share, so I won't) for buying over a short time period. I don't think they have a problem with finding content.
 
lwarden said:
You are going to have to explain that comment. I'm not going to watch it, but now you've piqued my interest.
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I didn't watch the whole thing, but something about having their car broken into with a lot of expensive camera gear in it.
 
Jklotz said:
I didn't watch the whole thing, but something about having their car broken into with a lot of expensive camera gear in it.
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One camera…
 
That's not robbery, that's burglary. Robbery is when they rip the camera out of your hands.
 
I think it was about $10k worth of fancy camera and attachments used for their video filming. The most upsetting seemed to be the loss of the SD cards that were in the camera. Apparently they contained a lot of footage that can't be replaced
 
Their car was parked in an Amsterdam parking ramp while they went to METS (boat gear show). They left an expensive camera and SD cards locked in the trunk, so they wouldn't have them flashing around.

The ramp heavily advertised security, cameras, had a staffed office with glass, etc.

They came back and their rear window was broken (rental car), the seat flipped forward to reveal the trunk, and the camera gone.

Other cars there at the same time, were also broken into.

Turns out there is no-one in the glass office, and no-one is allowed to see the video (if it even exists). Even police! Police said this is so common, unlikely to be solved.

They then looked up reviews for the ramp and tons of people had had their car broken into there. You have to wonder if it's an inside job. Was a ramp associated with Heineken.

It was said that maybe the thieves use some sort of reader to detect signals (part of their camera does broadcast something).

In retrospect.... would have been easy to at least take the SD cards along....
 
Watched that episode last night. I'm on the fence about their channel, but nonetheless, how crappy is it to have your camera gear stolen from your rental car:

- locked in trunk
- "secure" parking garage
- security cameras everywhere
- lot attendant missing in action (or maybe they are the thief?)
- police are generally of no help and do more to protect the thief than the victim
 
I watched it too. They made a lot of the security camera being pointed directly at their car which would easily show the thief.

To my eyes, also has a perfect view of them parking their car, taking their gear out of the backset and putting it into the trunk. Traveler tip: make the transfer at your previous stop.

The Wynn's learned a bitter lesson. Like many people, I was a knowledge worker who's data would be very expensive to replicate. My laptop rarely left my side when traveling.

I'm sorry for their loss. Would be incredibly frustrating. I hope their luck improves over time.

Peter
 
lwarden said:
If you really want to be annoyed by YouTubers, try out the Boomershines...
The wife is like nails on the chalkboard to me.
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Awwwwe - I like them! She may be a bit to "cheery", but sweet!
 
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