Rope rode with a Imtra Lofrans Kobra 5/16 HT gypsy?

[HeadedToTexas]

Hinz suggests a rule of thumb in his book The Complete Book of Anchoring and Mooring where windlass gypsies generally work with rope rode where the rope is twice the chain size. If my chain rode is 5/16", the twice that is 5/8". 3 strand 5/8" rope is available. Anyone have experience weighing the rope section of an anchor rode with a 5/16" HT gypsy? Is 5/8" or 3/4" the right size rope for that role?

 

[ranger58sb]

Hinz suggests a rule of thumb in his book The Complete Book of Anchoring and Mooring where windlass gypsies generally work with rope rode where the rope is twice the chain size. If my chain rode is 5/16", the twice that is 5/8". 3 strand 5/8" rope is available. Anyone have experience weighing the rope section of an anchor rode with a 5/16" HT gypsy? Is 5/8" or 3/4" the right size rope for that role?

We've used 5/16" chain and 5/8" rope -- but usually 8-plait, not 3-strand -- on our previous Maxwell windlass. Worked well.

Right now we have 200' of 3/8" chain and 3/4" 8-plait with our Lofrans windlass. This rope hasn't ever gotten wet, yet...

-Chris

 

[HeadedToTexas]

Is that because 8-plait flakes better in the anchor locker than 3-strand? Did you splice the 8-plait to the chain yourself?

 

[ranger58sb]

Is that because 8-plait flakes better in the anchor locker than 3-strand? Did you splice the 8-plait to the chain yourself?

Partly because of flaking, partly because I'd read recommendations for 8-plait over 3-strand or double-braid. Bought both all at once, had it spliced during the purchase process; wouldn't trust my own.

-Chris

 

[HeadedToTexas]

I’ve done a couple 3-strand splices and am ready to trust them, but 8-plait is a different kettle of fish. I’d love to learn that the splice between the rope and chain rolls seamlessly over the gypsy and down into the anchor locker, but I doubt that’s the way it works.

 

[Iggy]

Hinz suggests a rule of thumb in his book The Complete Book of Anchoring and Mooring where windlass gypsies generally work with rope rode where the rope is twice the chain size. If my chain rode is 5/16", the twice that is 5/8". 3 strand 5/8" rope is available. Anyone have experience weighing the rope section of an anchor rode with a 5/16" HT gypsy? Is 5/8" or 3/4" the right size rope for that role?

I have the same windless. I called Imtra and they said the gypsum will not take a line. That why the is a drum on the other side of the windless.

My problem was, the 5/8s line did work. But when it came the splice, it just kept jumping up and not being taken up. The splice was tapered.

 

[HeadedToTexas]

...the 5/8s line did work. But when it came the splice, it just kept jumping up and not being taken up.

Interesting. Is your 5/8 rope 3-strand or 8-plait? How did it do coming over the gypsy and down into the anchor locker? Helping the splice over the gypsy is no big deal for me, but it does make single handing that much more difficult.

 

[Iggy]

Interesting. Is your 5/8 rope 3-strand or 8-plait? How did it do coming over the gypsy and down into the anchor locker? Helping the splice over the gypsy is no big deal for me, but it does make single handing that much more difficult.

Its 3 stranded, but the 8 plait is better but more $$. it just jumps and under load and I don't want to lose a finger. I don't see going over 200 ft of 3/8s chain. The line is for "just in case".

Now funny thing and to keep it short. I just bought a Rocna 33 today. Overkill, but If the winds pick up someday at anchor. I don't want to drag.

 

[Marco Flamingo]

I had a frustrating experience with my 8 plait to chain splice. I thought that the splice was nice and tight, which it is. 8 plait very flexible, but the spice was just a little stiffer. When being turned and sent down into the locker, the splice didn't bend and drop quick enough and it would then be "pushed" by the chain. Being "pushed" by a chain doesn't work and a couple links would pop out, jamming the windlass. We had to have somebody below at the anchor locker pulling the rode to get the splice through to the chain. When solo, I had to go below and forward with the remote. Clumbsy feeling. After several problem attempts that actually deformed parts of the windlass, I modified the "down tube" area so that the rode splice was sent down at a better angle and there wasn't a way for the chain to pop out. Muir Storm 850.