Pretty boat, what do you think?

[Don L]

Hey to all that were willing to look and provide feedback, thanks.

 

[Don L]

Not kidding when he comes across as a troll. Two boats now that most would not consider including THE seasoned long term cruiser. I will continue to read the BS that should be in a humor sub forum.

Hey Mr.T I looked it up. Since I have been here I have asked about 3 specific boats, THREE. And the last was Apr 1 2023. In fact till this thread the 2 I had asked about were on Mar 31 and Apr 1 2023. That's 2.5 years ago and you think that is being a troll?

Yes my wife says I hold on to things too much. But hey I have time that needs wasting and i only blame myself when I do it.

 

[Bob Cofer]

Have you considered any of the larger Willards? The 36 will actually sail downwind (sorta).

 

[SteveK]

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So .................... what do you experience powerboat people think of this?

Pros to me:
- damn it's pretty
- steady sail (stupid pirate sail)
- 400 gal fuel for a 135HP Perkins seems good range
- low engine hours (will need more info on this)
- nice aft enclosed area
- price seems very reasonable
Cons
- not crazy about the aft ladder to get aboard
- It's a long first trip to get from Great Lakes to Jacksonville Fl

https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1984-custom-43-steady-sailor-9440782/?_gl=1*2a3djx*_gcl_aw*R0NMLjE3NjMyMjQ1OTMuQ2owS0NRaUE1dURJQmhEQUFSSXNBT3hqMENIZ1gtcnNPVThTeFNfUWR2MnRXZjQyX0J0QWtjUUI2eUJjb0RONHFpQjZDVVU4ZE9YcXZ2WWFBbDJiRUFMd193Y0I.*_gcl_au*MTQyODI5MTI3Ny4xNzYyMTI0NTA1LjgzMDIzNzA3NC4xNzYzMjIyMzk0LjE3NjMyMjIzOTM.*_ga*MTE3NTQwNzk5My4xNzYyMTI1*_ga_LSXS9HPRWN*czE3NjM5MDg0MzUkbzE2JGcxJHQxNzYzOTA5MDk4JGo1OCRsMCRoMjIwMDkwNzQ.

I am posting to explain. This boat is ferrocement, a very important CON yet OP is not calling it a con or otherwise mentioning it. I don't care if someone is willing to get a $30,000 boat or one with a ferro cement hull, I care about the presentation by OP that asks for your comments on a boat the OP has no intention of buying without disclosure in the cons. That is trolling.
How many, me included look at the picture and see a viable boat without reading the full listing. I am out thread ignore.

 

[Don L]

I am posting to explain. This boat is ferrocement, a very important CON yet OP is not calling it a con or otherwise mentioning it. cons.

Really? Guess you didn't even read the thread.

That is trolling.
How many, me included look at the picture and see a viable boat without reading the full listing. I am out thread ignore.

And that makes you the one trolling !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Don L]

Have you considered any of the larger Willards? The 36 will actually sail downwind (sorta).

none have come up under my search parameters, so no

 

[raised kk36]

I am an ex sailboat cruiser who has been boatless now 1.5 years, but am only 65 and I wasn't ready to stop cruising. At the same time the event that ended our cruising changed my thinking and we aren't going back to a sailboat and are thinking a trawler or a motorsailer. Being a sailor I of course like the idea of a motorsailer over a trawler for the possibility of sailing (even though I KNOW that is semi wrong) and the motion control. But true motorsailers are kind of a rare breast and they are either old or HUGE. They also have height limits and since Iive in Florida in east coast and have been up down a few times I understand the bridges. So ............................. enter a trawler with a steady sail. We don't need to go 20kph so don't need the crazy 400-70HP older ones have. We aren't planning to cross the ocean, just coastal to Caribbean.

I am not ready to buy yet (unless something shows up I just can not pass up) and looked at sailboats for years before getting one (once I started looking in person I had 1 in 2 weeks).

So .................... what do you experience powerboat people think of this?

Pros to me:
- damn it's pretty
- steady sail (stupid pirate sail)
- 400 gal fuel for a 135HP Perkins seems good range
- low engine hours (will need more info on this)
- nice aft enclosed area
- price seems very reasonable
Cons
- not crazy about the aft ladder to get aboard
- It's a long first trip to get from Great Lakes to Jacksonville Fl

https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1984-custom-43-steady-sailor-9440782/?_gl=1*2a3djx*_gcl_aw*R0NMLjE3NjMyMjQ1OTMuQ2owS0NRaUE1dURJQmhEQUFSSXNBT3hqMENIZ1gtcnNPVThTeFNfUWR2MnRXZjQyX0J0QWtjUUI2eUJjb0RONHFpQjZDVVU4ZE9YcXZ2WWFBbDJiRUFMd193Y0I.*_gcl_au*MTQyODI5MTI3Ny4xNzYyMTI0NTA1LjgzMDIzNzA3NC4xNzYzMjIyMzk0LjE3NjMyMjIzOTM.*_ga*MTE3NTQwNzk5My4xNzYyMTI1*_ga_LSXS9HPRWN*czE3NjM5MDg0MzUkbzE2JGcxJHQxNzYzOTA5MDk4JGo1OCRsMCRoMjIwMDkwNzQ.

Yes kind of an interesting looking boat. [From a twice KK36 Manatee and current Fales Navigator owner.]
Per the listing: been all over the world? Engine hours 900 (looks original, no over spray) so x even 9 knots=8100 miles transited, perhaps across the Atlantic and back-once. With the small steadying sail, what 3 knots top with the 38 ton(!!!) displacement. Guess you can run aground and not worry, but all those steps!
Nest...

 

[mvweebles]

I am posting to explain. This boat is ferrocement, a very important CON yet OP is not calling it a con or otherwise mentioning it. I don't care if someone is willing to get a $30,000 boat or one with a ferro cement hull, I care about the presentation by OP that asks for your comments on a boat the OP has no intention of buying without disclosure in the cons. That is trolling.
How many, me included look at the picture and see a viable boat without reading the full listing. I am out thread ignore.

Steve - bit of a misunderstanding here. The original boat trader ad posted by OP didn't specify the hill material. See first screenshot. The YW as for the same boat did - @CharlieO in #8 picked it up, and the OP realized the mistake in #9. All seems kosher to my eyes. You might want to take a second look.

Peter

 

[Don L]

Actually the BT listing did say the hull was ferro. Was just kind of hidden. This has nothing really to do with the Steve attack

 

[Frosty]

I guess @Don L didn't need to list ferroconcrete as a "con" because the minute he realized that was the hull material he said it completely ruled the boat out for him. You don't really need a "con" list on something you are 100% not interested in.

@CharlieO. I hadn't picked up on that important point, but you spotted it. I still enjoyed looking at the boat though. I like the boats in the "Interesting Boats" thread too; but many of them are so large and unattainable (for me); this boat was something more to scale for me so it was fun to look at.

 

[Bob Cofer]

Here is a Willard 40.

Fairhaven Yachts

www.fairhavenyachts.com

 

[Frosty]

I've always like the Willard 40's. (Haven't had one but knew a couple people who did so spent some time aboard two different models.)

It's interesting that the ad calls this one a "pilothouse trawler" when Willard did specifically make a pilothouse version, but this boat for sale is the lower helm + flybridge model. I like them both but if single-handing this one does have galley access while underway without losing your forward view.

On the other hand the actual pilothouse version has.... a pilothouse (fancy that) and helm doors. With a Europa-like sidedeck.

Of course, my apologies if Willard somehow called the helm-door-less sedan + flybridge model a "pilothouse" also! I think I can see the "lines" in the brow in the ad, but IIRC the whole center brow kind of flips down and becomes flybridge stairs on the sedan + flybridge model.

I like both models for different reasons

The Pilothouse 40:

 

[Don L]

Here is a Willard 40.

View attachment 169788

Fairhaven Yachts

www.fairhavenyachts.com

It's nice and I like most of it. But it is more than 3 times the price want to pay.

 

[Mac2]

Incredible looking boat, and so well outfitted. Sure you could buy a cheaper version and then spend a couple hundred thousand and a few years to get it in the same condition (maybe). Someone is going to get a great boat. Would love to get the perspective of m/v weebles.

 

[Diep]

That Willard shows better than most boats half the age. Yeah its an '81 but if the hull and deck is solid it will make a great cruising vessel.

 

[Bob Cofer]

Incredible looking boat, and so well outfitted. Sure you could buy a cheaper version and then spend a couple hundred thousand and a few years to get it in the same condition (maybe). Someone is going to get a great boat. Would love to get the perspective of m/v weebles.

I've been aboard this one several times at our rendezvous, it's better in person.

 

[Mako]

@Don L, I wouldn't necessarily rule out that ferro boat just yet. There have been (some) very well built ferro's over the decades, and if it has lived most its life in fresh water then that would be a big plus. Not sure how far you live from it, for a viewing, but that would answer that question. If it's decent, then offer him half his asking price. If it is in good condition and you can buy it for a great number, then go out and enjoy yourself on the high seas.

 

[Fletcher500]

If as described, that W40 is one of the nicest looking early 80s boat I have ever seen. Elegant lines. Peter’s W36 is pretty sweet looking as well, including the new hard top. Lots of Willard work boats in our area that are 40 plus years old and still going strong.

 

[Don L]

@Don L, I wouldn't necessarily rule out that ferro boat just yet. There have been (some) very well built ferro's over the decades, and if it has lived most its life in fresh water then that would be a big plus. Not sure how far you live from it, for a viewing, but that would answer that question. If it's decent, then offer him half his asking price. If it is in good condition and you can buy it for a great number, then go out and enjoy yourself on the high seas.

Considering other choices in same price range it just wouldn't be worth the risk to me

 

[captmikem]

But true motorsailers are kind of a rare breast and they are either old or HUGE.

I actually bought a small motorsailor, and pretty happy with her. 1986 Monk 38, not that old.