Portable Refrigerator Coolers?

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JackConnick

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The fridge on our GBC 36 is pretty small for extended cruising. The admiral would like to trade in our cooler that we've used as an extra fridge for a powered unit.
They've become popular and there's a lot of choices up and down the price ladder. Dometic makes a really nice one at a really nice price $1250! Hard to justify for using it for a couple of months a year.
Have others found a good quality unit that is well insulated and power efficient? It will be sitting outside our rear window and gets a fair amount of sun. Or brands to look at that aren't nuts price-wise. We don't really need two zones as we have a built-in chest freezer, but we like to have some baskets or organization inside.
 
On previous boat had a cooler that was designed for a block of ice.
I installed a nova cool compressor kit and it then froze ice cream.
You want a cooler/fridge, it would have done that just turn down thermo.
Perhaps you have an area that can be insulated, does it have to be fancy?
 
Two issues? Location and choice of portable(?) fridge.
An external location with lots of sun is not good. Will it get wet too? Inside, protected, sounds better.
There are many many portable refrigerators on the market here. Dometic are usually top end price wise. Many boast Secop compressors, (but what`s really inside?) We have a Dometic, when it began misbehaving, bought an inexpensive Chinese made fridge, which works fine after 4 years. The Dometic ceased misbehaving, we use them interchangeably. You might buy 4 "no name" units for the cost of one Dometic here, but tariffs may affect that for you.
We load ours at home to take stuff cold to the boat by car, plugging it into the car in transit. Very useful.
 
We were looking for a portable freezer. I ordered a Dometic but it was backordered so I started looking for a different one. Found an EdgeStar on Overstock for way less money. It was 12/120 volt. We used it in our RV for about 4 years. I bought the extended warranty from Overstock for about $40. It stopped working on 12 volts so I called Overstock. They could not find a service center near us so they refunded the purchase price. Said to keep the freezer or throw it away. It works great on 120 so I kept it and now use it on our boat. We plug it in and can cruise 4 to 5 hours without power and the temp will still be in the teens so we live with it. It was essentially free except for the warranty cost.
 
Son gave me a Bodega cooler about 18 months ago. Seems great using little electricity. Gets cold very quickly and can be half fridge/half freezer or all one (not sure if all freezer or fridge).

Not sure I would ever leave it outside totally exposed to the elements but I have never tried it.

My son has one and uses it a lot more than I use mine and just said yesterday he was thinking of buying a larger one and if he thinks the quality is OK, he is a maniac for research and reviews.
 
I bought an Engel MR040 eight or nine years ago. Does 12 / 24 VDC and 120 VAC. Will run as a refrigerator or a freezer and can easily hold 0 degrees Fahrenheit for 6 months. I bought it for a deep freeze to supplement the small one in my refrigerator. Worked flawlessly on the boat, now use it in the car on multiple day trips. Do get some looks rolling it into the hotel on a valet cart to plug in overnight.

Simply, you get what you pay for as far as quality.


Understand that all of these type units don't have as much insulation as quality freezer or refrigerator has, so the power consumption is significant. Unfortunately they don't have an energy consumption label and consume multiple times the power per cubic foot compared to your refrigerator.

Ted
 
We have an ICECO-VL75ProD in our van. It draws about 5.5 amps on 12v. I would estimate that it takes about 750-950 watt hours a day. After a year or so it stopped working...they sent a replacement that has been working since January .
It keeps ice cream and the temperature control is excellent. Either side can be a frig or a freezer.
 
Keep 'em coming, thanks!
Unfortunately, we don't have room for it inside and there's a perfect spot right on the back deck that's sheltered from 3 sides. It will get rain though and sun in the afternoons can be strong. So it has to be waterproof/outdoor rated. There's plugs right inside the window.
Electrical use can be a problem onboard if we sit for a couple of days, more generator hours. Our solar array is pretty much taped out space wise and usually provides enough juice for day use. However if we sit out the rain for a couple of days we are running the gen for a couple hours a day.
Underway is no problem. I saw that some have an external lith battery pack you can buy...more $$.
 
Bought a Bodega last year and it has performed flawlessly. 4 degrees F on one side 40 on the other, with an option to combine the two compartments. Not too bad on power consumption and noise. Overnight with both the GB fridge and the Bodega running and an LED anchor light we draw about 30 - 35 amp hours. Depends on outside temperature. Not sure if I would want it outside, but it does look like it would be OK.
 
Unfortunately they don't have an energy consumption label and consume multiple times the power per cubic foot compared to your refrigerator.
That is true of most of them, However Engel does have extensive performance charts for most models. For example, the 35L is here. It shows 0.95AH average draw at -5°C inside and 35°C outside temps.
 
Good to hear about the Bodega. The 79L is the one we're looking at. It has a rain rating and you can buy an insulated cover for it as well. People are saying around 4ahs average consumption.
 
The Engle seems nice, but then you are up in the $1K range...
 
We had a 12V/110V model for years. Worked well. Keeping it out of the sun is key - the insulation thickness is not great. One owner we knew had a canvas foam cover made for 4 sides and top with cut out for compressor vent, made with closed cell foam, covered with a light color Sunbrella fabric. It acted as both additional insulation and a soft seat cover.
 
I have this Iceco JP50 that I love in my Salon to augment the galley fridge. $529 at Amazon currently but I got it on prime day for $391 last year. Definitely recommend this brand - it gets super cold fast and holds the set temperature well. If you want one hold out until the next prime day in July and you’ll find some deals I’m sure.

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We have an Engel and Whynter. Both 12/120. The Engel is about 8 years old, Whynter 5. Engel stays in car, Whynter on boat. We use boat frig and freezer as cold storage. I had a cushion made and most think it is a small couch. Fits our GB36 perfectly.
 
We have an Engel and Whynter. Both 12/120. The Engel is about 8 years old, Whynter 5. Engel stays in car, Whynter on boat. We use boat frig and freezer as cold storage. I had a cushion made and most think it is a small couch. Fits our GB36 perfectly.

Where do you put it inside? Under the table?
 
If it has to be waterproof/outdoor rated, that's going to limit your choices. I think ARB has one such model. I don't know of any of the "cheapies" that do, but.... maybe?

I have (accumulated over the years) four Dometic portables. Three CF models and one CFX. The CF's all use the Danfoss/Secop compressor (gold standard). The CFX uses a "Dometic's own" compressor, but it seems to work fine (and claims to be able to go to a lower temp).

One thing to check on if it matters to you: In ye olden days (i.e. 6 years ago), this type of unit would always have a 110 volt option, and would automatically favor that if 110 were available. IOW, you could keep the 110 plugged in all the time, and then if it showed up as available (on the other end of the 110 cord at the outlet) the unit would switch over.

Conversely, if you had it running on 110 and for some reason shore power failed, it would seamlessly switch over to 12 volt and just keep running. I have that on all my units and it does come in handy sometimes.

On Dometic's newer units (model number has a Q in it), they removed that option. A problem was apparently accidentally discovered by owners (IIRC 110 could bleed into your 12 volt system), and instead of fixing it, they simply sent stickers to those owners and on newer units tell you not to ever have both plugged in at once. That takes away the "fail over" option, if it matters to you.

I have one of my Dometic CF units in the cockpit of my boat. I do have a bimini, but no side curtains. I have the made-by-dometic insulated cover for it. It has mesh sections over the compressor vents. Certainly not waterproof but a slight amount of rain will sort of "catch" on the mesh. I coudl also make some little deployable hoods I suppose, if need be.

Salt spray would probably be much harder on it (I've been in freshwater the past few years).

As was mentioned above, these units have much less insulation than a built in (and are difficult to add insulation to, unlike a built-in). Also, most of the mfgr insulated covers (which are nicely fitted) are very dark grey or black (??whyyy??). I keep a yellow throwable cushion on top of mine for that reason.

Another note is that most of this type of unit (even if they have a Danfoss/Secop compressor) add their own digital thermostat and some circuit boards where you control the temp. I have had those fail, along with the thermistors (sensors); but it's not hard to remove all that and add your own $20 digital control/sensor and controls (and they actually have more functionality in some ways).

I can't speak to the "knock off" compressors; but I have a friend with a Bouge RV (basic china compressor) unit and he's been happy for a couple of years. I will say my Danfoss (Dometic) units have lasted ten years so far, but they are lot more expensive and I would no longer buy a Dometic due to the way they handled the 110/12v failover issue.

Lastly, once you've decided to either spend more for a Danfoss type compressor or to go with a knock off type, I think as important is looking at the box features. Is it the shape you want? Is the lid easily reversible (keep in mind the compressor can't be moved and you need to provide good air flow to the intake/exhaust vents which are usually on either side of one end)? Is the liner leak-proof or full of seams? Do the lids require you to have an extra 5" on the hinge side in order to open fully (so like a recliner, no putting it near a wall)? If the hinges are on the short side, the lid will be tall so you need more height to open it. Etc. Etc.
 
We have an Engle. It's been running for over 13 years nonstop 365/24/7 as we liveaboard. It's worth everything I paid for it.
 
Apparently the Bodega uses an LG compressor, good quality - not as good as the Danfoss, but once again, our use is for a couple of months in the summer. The refer on board is fine for a few days time, or we restock as necessary locally.

Here's a ChatGPT chart:

FeatureBODEGA (LG) ~ $520Dometic (Secop) ~ $1250
CompressorLGDanfoss/Secop BD35F
EfficiencyGoodExcellent
NoiseQuiet (~42 dB)Whisper quiet (~35 dB)
Warranty3 yrs compressor5 yrs compressor
Ideal forSummer useFull-time off-grid
 
BTW, if quiet matters to you, on my Danfoss BD35F's (fan supplied by either Dometic and Vitrifrigo in my case), while the compressor is very quiet, the fan is (was!) somewhat loud (quite a bit louder than the actual compressor).

They all had one or another cheapie 120mm 12 volt computer fan. I replaced them (not difficult) with Noctua NF-A 12 x 25 fans which are either quiet, or even quieter (depending on how fast you run them -- they come with a resistor you can add to make them slower/quieter).

Really nice, high-quality fans that come with all the connectors, the resistor, nice rubber corner guards, etc. -- and great tech support when I've e-mailed them.

If yours will be in the cockpit sound level may not matter, but looking at your chart with db comparisons made me think of it.
 
The fridge on our GBC 36 is pretty small for extended cruising. The admiral would like to trade in our cooler that we've used as an extra fridge for a powered unit.
They've become popular and there's a lot of choices up and down the price ladder. Dometic makes a really nice one at a really nice price $1250! Hard to justify for using it for a couple of months a year.
Have others found a good quality unit that is well insulated and power efficient? It will be sitting outside our rear window and gets a fair amount of sun. Or brands to look at that aren't nuts price-wise. We don't really need two zones as we have a built-in chest freezer, but we like to have some baskets or organization inside.
I mounted a Yeti in that spot, on a rack to keep it off the deck on my GB 36. We use it as needed with dry ice for long term freezer when we're on a trek. No electricity needed, and does the job as often as we need it, which is only a few times per year. Has baskets to keep contents organized. Would that work for you? Certainly simpler. Low tech, and not what you're asking for, but depending on how much you need it, maybe an alternative?
 
I mounted a Yeti in that spot, on a rack to keep it off the deck on my GB 36. We use it as needed with dry ice for long term freezer when we're on a trek. No electricity needed, and does the job as often as we need it, which is only a few times per year. Has baskets to keep contents organized. Would that work for you? Certainly simpler. Low tech, and not what you're asking for, but depending on how much you need it, maybe an alternative?
That's what we've had sort of. We have a deep freeze though, but need refer space for veggies, etc.
We went with the Bodega, it was a close out at $120 off, should work out. We have 30 days to decide with it too.
 
4 years ago, we bought an Alpicool 45-qt. At the time Alpicool had good reviews and the size fit between the seats on our van. And price was right. We used it in freezer mode and it would make ice cubes but the insulation wasn't up to being inside a vehicle in summer in Utah desert. We returned it and didn't replace. So when we wanted one for Weebles (covered back deck) in the tropics, we went with a Dometic that had strong ratings by the overlander crowd. REI had a mild sale so while more expensive than the crowded tier, it was reasonably priced. Besides, I love doing business with REI where I've shopped since my motorcycle days 45-years ago.

I'd give the Dometic a B-. It does freeze but the insulation could be better so it sweats in the humid heat of the low latitudes.

To the OP - when looking at reviews or feedback, try to figure out where the user is located. If you're in South Florida, a box with rave reviews from a PNW user is interesting but not very informative. I'd go with whatever the overlander set are using these days. I know a grand is a lot of money for a fancy cooler. But it's not out of the realm to have several hundred dollars of meat in a freezer.

Peter
 
A few times a year, we wanted additional freezer space onboard. For many years I used a Yeti and dry ice. Careful packing & limited opening of the Yeti gave us at most a week (central Calif delta trips - so 90-100 temps). 2 years ago, I got tired of the dry ice hassle and looked for another solution. As an experiment, I bought a Bouge RV unit via Amazon. It was on sale for about $300, delivered to my front door. I can buy 3-4 of these for the price of a "name brand" unit. But there's been no need, it just keeps working. It's become of of the handier things we have. It gets used not only on the boat, but for taking food on a 3-4 hr trip to a 2nd home. On the boat, I just slide it under the lower helm seat and plug it in. It's 12/120 - but the unit itself is 12v. Comes with two cords: a straight thru 12v cig lighter plug & a 120->12v power brick. Two compartments, works in any combo of frig/freezer. Has a batt pack available, but it was as much as the frig so I skipped that and haven't felt a need for it. Temp regulation is good - as long as the unit isn't empty (some thermal mass really helps).
 

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We are on the Gulf Coast. Ours travels and stays in the suburban, which easily gets to 120+ on a hot summer day, no problems. Gets to -10f regularly, I like my ice cream hard.
 
Late I know but we just returned from a boat trip. I have a unit that sits on the back deck. 30 Cu Ft. It gets rain and sun heat. Those must be kept out of the controls or suffer the consequences of corroded connections which I got to repair with new bit and pieces.
I borrowed a couple unit from friends which they wrapped tightly with canvas and insulation failing to understand the controls will get humidity trapped which soaked the control panel causing corrosion and failures.

I only cover my controller buttons with a piece of plastic loosely taped to the unit overhanging the controller so rain cannot get in..

I cover the cooler/freezer with canvas so rain cannot get access and the sun is also kept off of the box. The canvas is started much higher than the cooler top so there is circulation. THe canvas is also secured near the bottom of the freezer.

I made a plywood and 2 x 2 wood platform for the freezer to reside in. THe platform feet, 6 pieces, of chair buttons to keep up off the deck.

I used grey PVC pipe tyrapped to the railing supports and allow the canvas, not sewn by me, to hang over the front and top of the cooler so when lifted to access the cooler gives us access to the cooler lid and interior.

I also allowed for two straps as hold downs to ensure the front of the cover does not lift in the breeze.

The PVC tubing was filled with lead wire to add some weight and prevent wind from blowing the cover about. One PVC tube secured the cover the the rail stanchions.

But they must be protected from the weather such as the sun and rain but still allowing ventilation or suffer the consequences of my friends. Once I figured out the why of the failure and did the repairs they never buried the cooler again gaining much more use at which time they sold the boat.

We now have about 6 years of use with no failures.
 
Two issues? Location and choice of portable(?) fridge.
An external location with lots of sun is not good. Will it get wet too? Inside, protected, sounds better.
There are many many portable refrigerators on the market here. Dometic are usually top end price wise. Many boast Secop compressors, (but what`s really inside?) We have a Dometic, when it began misbehaving, bought an inexpensive Chinese made fridge, which works fine after 4 years. The Dometic ceased misbehaving, we use them interchangeably. You might buy 4 "no name" units for the cost of one Dometic here, but tariffs may affect that for you.
We load ours at home to take stuff cold to the boat by car, plugging it into the car in transit. Very useful.
Hi Bruce, just as an aside. If you have a Danfoss/Secop compressor fridge or freezer, you can buy an auto changeover unit from shore power to 12v when cruising. If you look on Temu they are about a 3rd of the price.
We have fitted them to our fridge and freezer and they have worked fine for the last 12 years.
 
Hi Bruce, just as an aside. If you have a Danfoss/Secop compressor fridge or freezer, you can buy an auto changeover unit from shore power to 12v when cruising. If you look on Temu they are about a 3rd of the price.
We have fitted them to our fridge and freezer and they have worked fine for the last 12 years.
Just a note to the note:

At least in past years (I have five units with Danfoss/Secop compressors), on portables -- of if you ordered a built in unit that could run off 110 also -- they would all auto changeover. Mine all do, except for a small one that is DC only.

HOWEVER, Dometic's newest units (Q name) (which actually don't use Danfoss/Secop anymore), do NOT automatically changeover. They discovered a flaw in the internal design, and rather than fix it they now just tell you you can only have one source plugged in at a time. Shameful, IMO.

My other four, I can leave plugged in to both 110 and 12v, and it will run on 110 if it sees 110, and automatically switch over to 12v if there is no 110.

So upshot: Many of these units will already automatically switch over (these would be things like Vitrifrigo or Isotherm built in units with the 110 option when bought); or many portables such as the older Dometics).

Sounds like your suggestion would work for people who bought the Dometic Q series (uses Dometic's own compressor but I'm sure it's a Danfoss copyish type thing). But many others might not need them.

Another option -- if one has a 12 volt only Danfoss/Secop -- is that you can buy the Danfoss control unit that also has 110 volt and install that in place of the original 12-volt only part (then tuck away your original as a 12-volt only spare). It's pretty easy to switch them.
 
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