Our next cruise - Mexico to Alaska

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It's amazing how much life changes in just three short years.
In 2021 I was a full timer on my Bayliner 4788 living in Seward Alaska, and planning on retiring to Mexico.

In 2024 I have a wonderful wife I met in Mexico, I speak fluent spanish, and as it seems I own a house and bakery in Mexico.
My wife Vicky had worked hard her entire life, had built a very successful bakery business with her husband, only to find herself a widow early in life.
She had never been on a big boat, but loved adventure, and wanted something more out of life.

Several TF members know us well, and we cherish their friendship, and being part of the cruising community. We love cruising the Sea Of Cortez in the winter, but do not like the summer heat here and the worry of the next hurricane. Vicky BTW now has extensive cruising experience, even having completed both the downhill run on the Baja, and the fabled Baja Bash.

But... It's time for a new adventure. Vicky has worked hard to install a management team to run her bakery, and she this summer finished the process to legally obtain her visitor visas to both America and Canada, no easy task.

We have traveled extensively throughout Europe, Japan, Canada, and the US. We have rented Air B&B's, hotels, and have explored by both rented car, by train, and carless, relying on Ubers and taxis. Here is what we have learned, and this leads in to our next adventure.

We like getting up and having coffee in a facility with a kitchen, where we can make it to our liking.
We like eating breakfast before we leave for exploring for the day.
We like having a car at our disposal even if some days we don't drive anywhere.
We are not fond of living out of suitcases for long periods of time as much as we dreamed we would.

So... how do we incorporate those things into an extensive exploration of the western states of America, BC Canada, and up to Alaska???

Thats easy... We take the perfectly comfortable floating home we have and we use it as a base camp for our exploration.
So... in three short months we set forth on a great adventure. We are going to explore the pacific coast from Mexico, to Alaska and return home in probably 3 years.

Here is the rough plan...

We stop in a port town, and explore that area for a week or so, and then we move on to the next port. Every few weeks we leave the boat, and return to Mexico for a few weeks so Vicky can continue to monitor her business, and we can visit with family and friends. The plan is approximantly 50/50 but that will of course vary a bit. For transportation we will take our Hippie Jeep which being a 2 door model is perfect for city, or rural exploration. Remember this is not just port towns we are exploring. We want to go inland, with a overnight bag from time to time and see the sights. At some point, probably Vancouver island we will park the jeep and just go by boat.

Here is an example...

We rent a slip in San diego for a week, and explore.
On the travel day Vicky drives the jeep to lets say Los Angeles and meets me at the marina later that day. She does some shopping, since I'm slower than her in the boat.
We rent that slip lets say for a month to get a better rate, and we explore a bit, then fly home to Mexico for a couple of weeks. When we return we catch a weather window and head to lets say for example Santa Barbera, and we start the process again.

Here is our rough schedule which is of course based on seasonal weather.

March, April: Southern California
May: San Francisco Bay area
June: Northern California
July: Oregon Coast
August: Washington Coast
September: Puget Sound
October-April: Winter slip, hopefully in Victoria (we have a line on a winter slip in Victoria, which we Love in the winter)
April-September 2026 Canada to Alaska and return in the fall.
Winter 2026-2027: somewhere in Puget sound, probably Canada
Summer 2027 slowly work our way south, seeing things we missed the first time, and re-exploring places we loved.
Fall 2027 return to La Paz.

After that who knows???

What are your thoughts???
 
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Mazal Tov! The car ferrying plan sounds like pure genius.
 
Congratulations! It was nice meeting you in La Paz, I'll keep an eye out for you up here in the PNW!
 
Wow! What changes in such a "short" period of time.
I wish you the best of luck on your new adventure(s)!!!
 
That sounds like a good plan to me! Having the car to move along with you and not needing an overly quick or specific pace of travel gives lots of flexibility to adjust the plan as you go. Should be a fun change of pace.
 
It's amazing how much life changes in just three short years.
In 2021 I was a full timer on my Bayliner 4788 living in Seward Alaska, and planning on retiring to Mexico.

In 2024 I have a wonderful wife I met in Mexico, I speak fluent spanish, and as it seems I own a house and bakery in Mexico.
My wife Vicky had worked hard her entire life, had built a very successful bakery business with her husband, only to find herself a widow early in life.
She had never been on a big boat, but loved adventure, and wanted something more out of life.

Several TF members know us well, and we cherish their friendship, and being part of the cruising community. We love cruising the Sea Of Cortez in the winter, but do not like the summer heat here and the worry of the next hurricane. Vicky BTW now has extensive cruising experience, even having completed both the downhill run on the Baja, and the fabled Baja Bash.

But... It's time for a new adventure. Vicky has worked hard to install a management team to run her bakery, and she this summer finished the process to legally obtain her visitor visas to both America and Canada, no easy task.

We have traveled extensively throughout Europe, Japan, Canada, and the US. We have rented Air B&B's, hotels, and have explored by both rented car, by train, and carless, relying on Ubers and taxis. Here is what we have learned, and this leads in to our next adventure.

We like getting up and having coffee in a facility with a kitchen, where we can make it to our liking.
We like eating breakfast before we leave for exploring for the day.
We like having a car at our disposal even if some days we don't drive anywhere.
We are not fond of living out of suitcases for long periods of time as much as we dreamed we would.

So... how do we incorporate those things into an extensive exploration of the western states of America, BC Canada, and up to Alaska???

Thats easy... We take the perfectly comfortable floating home we have and we use it as a base camp for our exploration.
So... in three short months we set forth on a great adventure. We are going to explore the pacific coast from Mexico, to Alaska and return home in probably 3 years.

Here is the rough plan...

We stop in a port town, and explore that area for a week or so, and then we move on to the next port. Every few weeks we leave the boat, and return to Mexico for a few weeks so Vicky can continue to monitor her business, and we can visit with family and friends. The plan is approximantly 50/50 but that will of course vary a bit. For transportation we will take our Hippie Jeep which being a 2 door model is perfect for city, or rural exploration. Remember this is not just port towns we are exploring. We want to go inland, with a overnight bag from time to time and see the sights. At some point, probably Vancouver island we will park the jeep and just go by boat.

Here is an example...

We rent a slip in San diego for a week, and explore.
On the travel day Vicky drives the jeep to lets say Los Angeles and meets me at the marina later that day. She does some shopping, since I'm slower than her in the boat.
We rent that slip lets say for a month to get a better rate, and we explore a bit, then fly home to Mexico for a couple of weeks. When we return we catch a weather window and head to lets say for example Santa Barbera, and we start the process again.

Here is our rough schedule which is of course based on seasonal weather.

March, April: Southern California
May: San Francisco Bay area
June: Northern California
July: Oregon Coast
August: Washington Coast
September: Puget Sound
October-April: Winter slip, hopefully in Victoria (we have a line on a winter slip in Victoria, which we Love in the winter)
April-September 2026 Canada to Alaska and return in the fall.
Winter 2026-2027: somewhere in Puget sound, probably Canada
Summer 2027 slowly work our way south, seeing things we missed the first time, and re-exploring places we loved.
Fall 2027 return to La Paz.

After that who knows???

What are your thoughts???
Jeep???? How do you get it through the gate at the top of the ramp?
 
What a great post Kevin!

A couple thoughts for your dance card (if you're not already familiar):

Marina del Rey - Years ago, Cheryll and I thought about keeping a sailboat there. It's nice area with tons of nearby restaurants - fairly upscale. Might be a decent 2+ week stopover. Very close to LAX for flights.

Monterey - we stopped for a week on our way to Channel Islands 20+ years ago. Was a magical place as the marina is close to town. The old Italian fishermen play bocce ball in the nearby park between seasons.

Sacramento Delta - we loved spending a couple weeks cruising up the Delta. It's sorta redneck but in a lovable way (at least it was years ago when we were there).

San Francisco - if you can get a transient slip at Pier 40 near the ballpark, access into the City is fantastic. Pier 39 is good too, but quite a bit of surge.

I can't wait to follow your progress.

Peter
 
What a great post Kevin!

A couple thoughts for your dance card (if you're not already familiar):

Marina del Rey - Years ago, Cheryll and I thought about keeping a sailboat there. It's nice area with tons of nearby restaurants - fairly upscale. Might be a decent 2+ week stopover. Very close to LAX for flights.

Monterey - we stopped for a week on our way to Channel Islands 20+ years ago. Was a magical place as the marina is close to town. The old Italian fishermen play bocce ball in the nearby park between seasons.

Sacramento Delta - we loved spending a couple weeks cruising up the Delta. It's sorta redneck but in a lovable way (at least it was years ago when we were there).

San Francisco - if you can get a transient slip at Pier 40 near the ballpark, access into the City is fantastic. Pier 39 is good too, but quite a bit of surge.

I can't wait to follow your progress.

Peter
Thanks Peter! i'm saving those places.

I love Monterey. i had a end tie there and really enjoyed watching and listening to the sea lions! What a cool experience! Just last month vicky and i were on a road trip and stopped at I think the commercial side of Newport Oregon for a night. She was mesmerized by the sea lions, it was delightful to watch.
 
Thanks Peter! i'm saving those places.

I love Monterey. i had a end tie there and really enjoyed watching and listening to the sea lions! What a cool experience! Just last month vicky and i were on a road trip and stopped at I think the commercial side of Newport Oregon for a night. She was mesmerized by the sea lions, it was delightful to watch.
When Cheryll and I stopped in Monterey circa 2002, we docked late at night - probably midnight. Close to the end tie. We slept-in a bit and when we got up, a giant bull sea lion was sunning himself at the head of our dock blocking our access to the main dock. We waited and waited - he was quite comfortable there. So I radio'd the harbormaster and asked how to get the sea lion to move along. He asked if I had a tape measure handy. Rattling an extended tape measure is really annoying to sea lions. At this point, I'm pretty sure he called his co-workers over to say "we got another newbie.....watch this...."

So I walk out the dock towards the beast with my tape measure and start rattling it. Sure enough, the sound pissed-off the bull but instead of slipping into the water, he charged me!!! I had no idea they could move that fast though I confess, I was preoccupied and perhaps it seemed worse than it was.

I radio'd the harbormaster back and asked for a Plan B (I am pretty sure I heard chuckling and the sound of binoculars dropping). He suggested a garden hose which did the trick.

Lesson learned.......

Peter
 
When Cheryll and I stopped in Monterey circa 2002, we docked late at night - probably midnight. Close to the end tie. We slept-in a bit and when we got up, a giant bull sea lion was sunning himself at the head of our dock blocking our access to the main dock. We waited and waited - he was quite comfortable there. So I radio'd the harbormaster and asked how to get the sea lion to move along. He asked if I had a tape measure handy. Rattling an extended tape measure is really annoying to sea lions. At this point, I'm pretty sure he called his co-workers over to say "we got another newbie.....watch this...."

So I walk out the dock towards the beast with my tape measure and start rattling it. Sure enough, the sound pissed-off the bull but instead of slipping into the water, he charged me!!! I had no idea they could move that fast though I confess, I was preoccupied and perhaps it seemed worse than it was.

I radio'd the harbormaster back and asked for a Plan B (I am pretty sure I heard chuckling and the sound of binoculars dropping). He suggested a garden hose which did the trick.

Lesson learned.......

Peter
That's a great story Peter! One of those moments you can laugh about for years! I'm sure you have a slew of those moments in your extensive cruising travels! Maybe a book if forthcoming?
 
It sounds like an interesting plan. I don't think I could stay that long in any area (especially California). I did the East coast 7 or so round trips. Sitting a week was forever. Always new there were going to be more trips to hit the spots I missed and go back to the favorites. I get the part about going back to Mexico to check on the business, but the objective of cruising is to travel enough to keep the boat bottom clean.

But then, this is your trip, and I certainly wouldn't let anyone tell me how cruise. My one recommendation is to be willing to change things up. Cruising is supposed to be fun.

Ted
 
When Cheryll and I stopped in Monterey circa 2002, we docked late at night - probably midnight. Close to the end tie. We slept-in a bit and when we got up, a giant bull sea lion was sunning himself at the head of our dock blocking our access to the main dock. We waited and waited - he was quite comfortable there. So I radio'd the harbormaster and asked how to get the sea lion to move along. He asked if I had a tape measure handy. Rattling an extended tape measure is really annoying to sea lions. At this point, I'm pretty sure he called his co-workers over to say "we got another newbie.....watch this...."

So I walk out the dock towards the beast with my tape measure and start rattling it. Sure enough, the sound pissed-off the bull but instead of slipping into the water, he charged me!!! I had no idea they could move that fast though I confess, I was preoccupied and perhaps it seemed worse than it was.

I radio'd the harbormaster back and asked for a Plan B (I am pretty sure I heard chuckling and the sound of binoculars dropping). He suggested a garden hose which did the trick.

Lesson learned.......

Peter
Yep, hose with nozzle. They hate that. Ironic. It's just water, but they will leave the vicinity, with no harm done.
 
Congrats - if you've got a good partner it's hard to go wrong with your travel plans, especially if you're both adaptable and willing to change things up. Only thing I could think of: here in San Diego if you need to leave your boat for a month or two, I recommend subletting a mooring, ideally in America's Cup Harbor where we keep our boat. You'll be able to take your dinghy to top notch chandleries & some decent restaurants too. It'll be $250/mo or something like that, up to 54' LOA which I think should be fine for you.
 
Congrats - if you've got a good partner it's hard to go wrong with your travel plans, especially if you're both adaptable and willing to change things up.

I met Kevin while in la Paz last year. Both he and Vicki have well worn smiles from constant use. They really seem to have fun together. Even then I seem to recall Kevin describing a broad outline to hopscotch with a jeep to travel inland. Its an interesting blend of road trip and cruising.

Like Ted, left to my own devices, I'd be on the move - delivering boats long distances was a good fit for me. Were it not for Cheryll, Weebles would be in Florida right now and I would have missed out on so many interesting experiences. I am forever in her debt for the "Bobby McGee" side trips we've taken over the years.

Peter
 
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I don't know Kevin. If you are running the boat from place to place, and Vicky is driving the jeep and going shopping waiting for you to "catch up" at the next marina, given the speed differentials, with that much shopping, you're gonna need a bigger boat! :whistling:
 
I don't know Kevin. If you are running the boat from place to place, and Vicky is driving the jeep and going shopping waiting for you to "catch up" at the next marina, given the speed differentials, with that much shopping, you're gonna need a bigger boat! :whistling:
Yes Scott!!!

She discovered a store called "Ross dress for Less" To me a very frustrating store because they have a mix of styles and sizes. To her a perfect place to spend an afternoon searching.
 
Yes Scott!!!

She discovered a store called "Ross dress for Less" To me a very frustrating store because they have a mix of styles and sizes. To her a perfect place to spend an afternoon searching.


To quote my Father in Law: "Oh God, please just shoot me now!"
 
When Cheryll and I stopped in Monterey circa 2002, we docked late at night - probably midnight. Close to the end tie. We slept-in a bit and when we got up, a giant bull sea lion was sunning himself at the head of our dock blocking our access to the main dock. We waited and waited - he was quite comfortable there. So I radio'd the harbormaster and asked how to get the sea lion to move along. He asked if I had a tape measure handy. Rattling an extended tape measure is really annoying to sea lions. At this point, I'm pretty sure he called his co-workers over to say "we got another newbie.....watch this...."

So I walk out the dock towards the beast with my tape measure and start rattling it. Sure enough, the sound pissed-off the bull but instead of slipping into the water, he charged me!!! I had no idea they could move that fast though I confess, I was preoccupied and perhaps it seemed worse than it was.

I radio'd the harbormaster back and asked for a Plan B (I am pretty sure I heard chuckling and the sound of binoculars dropping). He suggested a garden hose which did the trick.

Lesson learned.......

Peter
Hilarious Peter at least for the harbormaster. Good tip though. Glad you were safe. They are crazy huge and fast.
 
Kevin, that sounds so amazing. Quite the dream trip. Love that Vicki is getting to see the land and shop while you are moving the boat. If you are interested in some company for part of the trip give Scot and I a holler we'd love to be part of your adventure.
 
Kevin, that sounds so amazing. Quite the dream trip. Love that Vicki is getting to see the land and shop while you are moving the boat. If you are interested in some company for part of the trip give Scot and I a holler we'd love to be part of your adventure.
That sounds like a plan Laura!!!

BTW the kids are heading your way in just a few weeks. We'll pick a time and come visit.
 
Sounds like a great trip. Only caution is to get to Port Hardy, BC by mid-September. In late September the weather can be dicey south of of Ketchikan Alaska particularly around Cape Caution.. Good boating.
 
Kevin,
Sounds like a great plan. I have been in love with Mexico and living here almost 15 years. Now keeping my boat in Olympia, WA at West Bay Marina. And driving from San Carlos, Sonora to spend June through October cruising and then winters and spring where it is sunny and warm, but not too warm.
Like LA Paz, San Carlos can be a booger June through October often. But that biannual road trip we try to make fun by avoid interstates and driving up to 200 miles to see something of interest that is not along the way.
Will be following your posts and wishing you and Vicky the best. Scott and Laura are friends of mine and my wife Cheri. They are great folks. Hopefully we can meet you two someday.
Fellow Nomad

Captain DJ
 
What a great plan...make sure to jump out and see Catalina Island (both Avalon and Two harbors areas and back side Cat harbor) I would also check the other channel islands Santa Cruz is another favorite for us.
Some area will tough to get slip and other like Oceanside, have guest only docks were longest you can stay is 30 days. Long Beach/Alamitos bay Marina has guest docks/slips as does Marina Del Rey and Channel islands and Ventura, Santa Barbra is great stop just need to time that right for slip, we have never been that lucky and have had to anchor...reach out when in So Cal we love meet up somewhere if you have time...(Destiny is Alamitos Bay Marina and we help you with mooring in Avalon most like via a friend and we have mooring in the Two Harbors).
 
When Cheryll and I stopped in Monterey circa 2002, we docked late at night - probably midnight.

Peter I docked in Monterey for a few days in June. Saw the staff using the tape measure trick to clear them off the boat launch ramp. The population comes in every night and there are hundreds of them now. Still was a great stop and reasonable rates.

Kevin we also stopped at Santa Barbara for 4 days. Walk to the nearby free saddle and coach museum. A hidden gem.

Port San Luis has a fantastic Anchorage. I liked it much better than nearby Morro Bay.

Our Hatteras is now in the Delta. Peter it is still redneck but a great place to explore.
 
Port San Luis has a fantastic Anchorage. I liked it much better than nearby Morro Bay.

When I was delivering, I used PSL frequently as a resting stop or to time rounding of Pt Conception when southbound (goal was to round shortly after midnight). Morro Bay requires a lot of planning of tides and currents balanced with afternoon winds. Nice stop but not "delivery friendly" if that makes sense.

Our Hatteras is now in the Delta. Peter it is still redneck but a great place to explore.

When our house was flooded by Hurricane Helene two months ago, one of the sodden possessions that caused me pause as I discarded it was my copy of Hal Schell's book on cruising the Delta. So well written with many sidebar stories and pictures describing the history and character of the region. We really enjoyed our trips up the Delta. Glad to hear it still has its funky charm. Welcomed counterpoise to San Francisco Bay.

Peter
 
Want to measure my documented AT 34.6 you will discover it is a 36.6 by to days standards. I feel more important.
 
Sounds like a great plan Kevin. I can probably help arrange a slip in my marina in San Diego on Harbor Island right across from the airport. There might be a few SD folks who would like to grab a beer or dinner with you and your wife and hear some stories of your adventures. LMK if you are interested in either.
 
Want to measure my documented AT 34.6 you will discover it is a 36.6 by to days standards. I feel more important.
After groaning about being charged for 50 feet at marinas, I finally accepted it and now I tell people I have a 50 foot boat.
 

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