New to me CC Corinthian 380

[hfoster]

Hi all,

I have been on the forum for a number of years and I have been boat less for the last 5 years

So for a play around vessel, I pick up a CC C-380 until I can talk the wife into retiring so I can get a Fleming.

Anyways, I hope some of you CC owners will share your thoughts on finding parts or just throw your 2 cents in.

Thanks

H

a few picks I will post some better photos later on

 

[Comodave]

Congrats on your new boat.

 

[hfoster]

Thanks Comodave,

I started to run her home and the starboard transmission failed. So in a few weeks It will be back on the water heading home

Cheers
H

 

[hfoster]

Hauling out after the transmission failed

 

[rslifkin]

Welcome aboard! I've got a 381 Catalina, so different layout but built on the same hull. Feel free to ask if you've got any boat specific questions, as there's a good chance I either have the answer or can point to a source that might.

Which engines and transmissions do you have? Mine is an early build 86 model, so I have Mercruiser 454s with velvet drives. Later boats got Crusaders and velvet drives. Early years had the Chris Craft engines and typically Paragon transmissions. I'm guessing yours is an early boat as the picture shows recessed trim tabs.

 

[hfoster]

Thanks rslifkin

I have the 454 crusader and P44 transmission. I know the parts are hard to find for those trans but the yard master where I haul out can get parts foe them.

As far as the trim tap. I didn't raise it up all the way. I thank you for your in put and your offer. As of now I am looking for a starboard vent cap. Cannot find one like the one I have on it.

H.

 

[rslifkin]

Post a picture of what vent you're looking for and I'll see if I've got any notes on what a replacement might be.

And yeah, the sightly deployed tabs are how I could tell. On later year 380/381 hulls (like mine) those pockets they recess into aren't present and the tabs extend aft of the transom.

 

[hfoster]

Thanks

I don't know if you can see it but if you open the aft photo an zoom in you may be able to see it. That's the port side I had to flip the photo to get it to be right side up :lol:

If you cannot see it I will take a photo of it when I go back up to MI to bring here home. Only 710 miles to go!

H.

 

[rslifkin]

If you're thinking of the vent scoops on the gunwales, unfortunately I don't have a definite source for those (my later year boat doesn't have them). I'd check with Chris Parts and maybe the Commander Club forums for that one.

 

[hfoster]

Thanks

That's is what I need. I did check those places and it was a no go. I think I will have a friend of mine machine me one. I thinking now that would be my best bet!

H

 

[sealandsky]

Thanks

That's is what I need. I did check those places and it was a no go. I think I will have a friend of mine machine me one. I thinking now that would be my best bet!

H

Hi - I know this post is as old as dirt, but I just came across it. The vent you need would be available through www.unifliteparts.net as your hull is actually a Uniflite design, not Chris-Craft. Tim is the owner and is very helpful!

 

[rslifkin]

Hi - I know this post is as old as dirt, but I just came across it. The vent you need would be available through www.unifliteparts.net as your hull is actually a Uniflite design, not Chris-Craft. Tim is the owner and is very helpful!

The 380/381 hull is not a Uniflite design. Both the 380 Corinthian (started in 79) and the 381 Catalina (started in 81) are Chris Craft designs. Chris Craft (by then Murray Chris Craft) didn't acquire Uniflite until 1984. The 382 Commander is one of the inherited Uniflite designs, however.

 

[sealandsky]

The 380/381 hull is not a Uniflite design. Both the 380 Corinthian (started in 79) and the 381 Catalina (started in 81) are Chris Craft designs. Chris Craft (by then Murray Chris Craft) didn't acquire Uniflite until 1984. The 382 Commander is one of the inherited Uniflite designs, however.

Hi Rob - I know you are a well informed person, but the hull form appears to be distinctly Uniflite. Do you suppose there was some collaboration or contract work done between the two firms in the late 70's, early 80's?

 

[rslifkin]

Hi Rob - I know you are a well informed person, but the hull form appears to be distinctly Uniflite. Do you suppose there was some collaboration or contract work done between the two firms in the late 70's, early 80's?

Not that I've heard of, but it's entirely possible there was. Some of CC's and Uniflite's designs were similar in styling in general though (which might be part of why Chris Craft absorbed the Uniflite models so easily).

The 380/381 hull is a bit of an oddity. The broken sheer line was definitely more common on Uniflite models than Chris Craft models (many of which had a straight sheer at that time). But Chris Craft had done boats with a broken sheer in the past, including the 35 Commander hull and the 35DC / 350 Catalina that evolved from that hull. The older 36 foot Commander sport fish had a broken sheer as well, and those were all definitely in house Chris Craft designs.

Where the hull gets weird is when you look at it out of the water. The underwater sections don't really look like a typical Chris Craft hull or a typical Uniflite hull, particularly in the convex forward sections and relatively prominent keel that cuts upward significantly towards the stern. There's also not a lot of deadrise at the transom (only 10*), the transom isn't deeply immersed for the size of the boat, and there's a small stub keel / rib that carries all the way back (similar to some of the earlier Commander hulls except the keel is a box rather than V shaped at the bottom).

The chines and sheer line on the 380/381 definitely do look similar to the Uniflite derived models, but comparing my boat to pictures of a 426 Catalina the chines on the Uniflite hull appear to exit the water a bit further forward (relative to the length of the hull), the Uniflite keel is much smaller and disappears entirely aft, and the Uniflite hull has more immersed transom and more deadrise aft. Many of the fiberglass Chris Craft hulls also have an additional step in the hull above the chine, normally a few inches above the waterline, where it notches out about an inch, almost like a double chine. The Uniflite hulls don't have that design feature.