Looking for a 50'/60' Trawler

[long-cours.62]

Hello, May be soon our 72' will be sold but at a low price

During the last 50 year we always been on boat an we looking for the new one
No problem with material ( except wood and sandwich balsa).
Saw a Sélène 53 for sale but more expansive than our selling price :-( if you know one at reasonable price ...
Even if we prefer aluminium...
twin engine or main engine with get home, big tankage, 2 cabin, lazaret or good storage volume...
Photo of some but already gone

This one bellow still for sale but 5 year older than ours, engine 6 time more hours and more expansive than our selling price ( vat not paid)

 

[Jstyers]

You should buy my 50’ Fleming Pilothouse Trawler. Twin 3208’s. Stabilized. Watermaker. Cruising veteran. In San Diego.
Check it out here:

 

[Mambo42]

Hello, May be soon our 72' will be sold but at a low price View attachment 170917
During the last 50 year we always been on boat an we looking for the new one
No problem with material ( except wood and sandwich balsa).
Saw a Sélène 53 for sale but more expansive than our selling price :-( if you know one at reasonable price ...
Even if we prefer aluminium...
twin engine or main engine with get home, big tankage, 2 cabin, lazaret or good storage volume...
Photo of some but already gone
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This one bellow still for sale but 5 year older than ours, engine 6 time more hours and more expansive than our selling price ( vat not paid)

My boat may come up for sale soon. I have been looking into extending my boat, but the yards I spoke with don't give me a lot of confidence, so idea is to sell mine and then find a larger boat. My boat is in Greece, about to take the teak deck off, repair soft spots and put coosaboard instead of teak (is not so hot in the summer in the Med).
It is a Defever 49, heavily modified, ideal for longtime onboard living.

Also in Greece is a Grand Banks 53 (if I am not mistaken). Inside in pristine condition, the outside needs some work.
In Italy there is this aluminum Benetti, looks great.

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/2001-benetti-sail-division-benetti-20-9966584/

 

[raised kk36]

You should buy my 50’ Fleming Pilothouse Trawler. Twin 3208’s. Stabilized. Watermaker. Cruising veteran. In San Diego.
Check it out here:

Nice Fleming, but didn't you get his vibe of no money? Guessing your boat is $500K or more

 

[long-cours.62]

My boat may come up for sale soon. I have been looking into extending my boat, but the yards I spoke with don't give me a lot of confidence, so idea is to sell mine and then find a larger boat. My boat is in Greece, about to take the teak deck off, repair soft spots and put coosaboard instead of teak (is not so hot in the summer in the Med).
It is a Defever 49, heavily modified, ideal for longtime onboard living.

Also in Greece is a Grand Banks 53 (if I am not mistaken). Inside in pristine condition, the outside needs some work.
In Italy there is this aluminum Benetti, looks great.

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/2001-benetti-sail-division-benetti-20-9966584/

We made an offer on this Benetti few year ago when she was for sale in Olbia at this moment she was blue.
It is an 16.80m boat extended twice now they ask 200k€ more than her selling price, say they already change some plating ... The volume is far enough for us us , but they asking for more we will sold our ... It is a pity
And I am not so confident with the broker for example I know ( from the builder ) this boat was lengthened and the broker certify it is not true The builder send to us the lengthened drawing, I have front of me and the broker continue to lie ...When it start like that ...

 

[Mambo42]

We made an offer on this Benetti few year ago when she was for sale in Olbia at this moment she was blue.
It is an 16.80m boat extended twice now they ask 200k€ more than her selling price, say they already change some plating ... The volume is far enough for us us , but they asking for more we will sold our ... It is a pity
And I am not so confident with the broker for example I know ( from the builder ) this boat was lengthened and the broker certify it is not true The builder send to us the lengthened drawing, I have front of me and the broker continue to lie ...When it start like that ...

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I did not know that this one has been extended, but that may explain the price, it does cost a lot of money to get it done. She does look to be in good condition, I looked at this one myself as well, but since I am not familiar with the ins and outs of aluminum I am not going to take a gamble on this one.
Heard a horror story of an aluminum yacht in Cleopatra (Greece) yesterday. Boat came in with some dust on the hull, turned out they had a stray current, took over 6 months (and a fortune) to repair the boat. Technical department of the yard told me the stray current had eaten away the welds and then the plates, in some places holes were just below the surface.
That is enough for me to not even going to try aluminum.

 

[long-cours.62]

We had aluminium boat during 28 year and no problem at all.
But you must take care of your electric wiring, clean bilge, don't stay alongside with rusty barge or wharf ( or even worst wooden boat with cupper plate like you can find in Norway).
It is clearly my favorite material. The example you wrote may be the problem is ...the welding bad quality welding may be done with the wrong type of "wire".
With a basic ohmeter and an "anodes reference" you can check if your level of "protection" is correct. No direct connection with shore power but always with this type of "isolation transformer"
Transformateurs d'isolement IT automatique - CRISTEC

Photo of thee Sd 60 when she was for sale few year ago (2022) in blue

 

[long-cours.62]

Steel also have big trouble for example this one for sale by auction :

Reinke 1640 à vendre

Reinke 1640 de 1994 – Voilier en acier avec expérience océaniqueLe Reinke 1640, construit en 1994, est un voilier en acier mesurant 16,40 mètres de long et

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Reinke 1640 à vendre

 

[Henk]

Maybe you are interested in a Bénéteau Swift Trawler 52?
With 2 Volvo Penta D9 engines, 575 hp each, 505 engine hours
Stabilized with Magnus Master,
With a permanent berth in Palavas-les-Flots

 

[long-cours.62]

Thanks but the Swift Trawler even if near similar look than ours have not a large autonomy and ...she is more expensive than our selling price :-(
I remember read a delivery from west coast of France to (may be ) Rotterdam and they refuelling few time ( thinks remember Concarneau and later Cherbourg and may be one time more before reach Rotterdam)
But my boss , my wife said : smaller boat, much smaller engine,