Lehman Starter "Used on"

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For those like me who needed a starter for a Lehman - the question is "what's it used on?"
I have a listing of the machines it was used on if you need a replacement/rebuilt whatever.
PM me if you want it or advise if you want it on here, don't want to clutter up the site.
 
It won't clutter if you use the RESOURCES function at the top of this page. The RESOURCES is exactly what you need, A place to post it and others can look for info like this that is no longer published. Take a look through it as many people have posted stuff like you are asking about.

If no one is interested you will still have done the forum a service.
Before Boat Diesel went down I posted a bunch of stuff which I have now mostly lost. Wish I had posted on both forums.
 
Ill post it if i can figure out how. I have it as a word.doc & can't t get it to go
 
Ill post it if i can figure out how. I have it as a word.doc & can't t get it to go
Hi,
Here the word doc you kindly sent me, rendered as a PDF.
 

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Tks ! Ya think there were enough applications ?
.......Yep, there are a lot of them, and somehow I kinda doubt that tractor owners go looking for a "marine" starter when they need one... even thought we all know if it says marine it must be better! ;-)
 
You all know a marine starter is different from a tractor starter right?
 
Marine starters, alternators, etc. are no spark electric motors. In a car, tractor, etc. no spark is a non-issue as any type of fuel vapor exits the vehicle easily and safely. In a marine applicant the starter is in the bilge where vapors can not exit easily. Although not a serious potential issue with a diesel engine, if there is a propane line anywhere inside the boat and it happens to leak the vapors settle in the bilge where a spark from any type of electric motor can cause a real problem (kaboom!). So yes, there is a very distinct difference between a marine starter and a tractor/truck/car starter.
 
Marine starters, alternators, etc. are no spark electric motors. In a car, tractor, etc. no spark is a non-issue as any type of fuel vapor exits the vehicle easily and safely. In a marine applicant the starter is in the bilge where vapors can not exit easily. Although not a serious potential issue with a diesel engine, if there is a propane line anywhere inside the boat and it happens to leak the vapors settle in the bilge where a spark from any type of electric motor can cause a real problem (kaboom!). So yes, there is a very distinct difference between a marine starter and a tractor/truck/car starter.
I wondered if you were thinking about ignition protection. The key isse isn't that a boat tends to have an enclosed engine room. It's whether the engine uses a fuel that is explosive at STP (Standard temp & pressure). Gasoline is, diesel isn't.

In a gas engine boat, all the equipment needs to be ignition protected. I grew up with gas engine I/O boats and had an atomic 4 in a Catalina 27 many years ago. I can't tell you the number of people that were angry at me at a fuel dock because I wouldn't leave immediately to make space for them. I just refused to start the engine until my nose (my #1 gas vapor sensor), sniffing at the engine room ventilation outlet, confirmed the absence of gas fumes. After the Cat 27, I graduated to diesel boats and I've been much less stressed over fueling ever since.

When one complicates the scenario, and adds in a LPG leak (adding in an explosive fuel source), you could create a problem. However, that source problem is the LPG leak, not the starter motor. For that scenario, there better not be any pieces of equipment in an engine compartment (with a leaky LPG line), that could cause a spark.

AFAIK an ignition protected starter motor is not a requirement for a diesel engine. Diesel engines are designed assuming their use in a diesel (non-explosive) fuel environment.

I don't have specs handy to check against, but I think a L135 starter is not ignition protected as shipped from the factory. As the doc shows, the starter is used on many tractors. That's evidence that Lehman used the starter motor that Ford supplied. Design Economics would make me doubt Ford sourced/made a special "marine / ignition protected" starter for the L135 block that would have been used for boats after marinization by Lehman.

If I'm wrong, I'd really appreciate a reference.
 
Can’t answer your specific question re: ignition protected, but I certainly want such a starter on my boat that has LPG lines running thru the engine room regardless of the Volvo diesel engine sitting there. I do know when I had to replace the alternator on the SP135 in my GB36 I made sure it was spark proof.
 
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