Greenline 40: General Discussion

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Hello,
If you are in Korkula on the GL 40 I’ll be please to invite you in a cafe to talk about GL.
I’ve try to PM you but ScottC doesn’t appear in the list on my IPhone.
Thx
Pierre
Pierre, you PM him by clicking on his name in any of his posts in the left hand column where his avatar is, then select 'send a private message to' from the drop-down list under his name...

PS. All this is much easier done on say a laptop than iPhone, because the screen is so small. However, other folk manage on their phones. I try to avoid doing much on websites on my phone.
 
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@scottc I cannot send a PM because I’m a newly registered member. I was on this forum some years ago, but it didn’t find my account (or I forgot) so I re-signed up.

If you might be so kind, I have questions on the GL33. I think if you PM me I can reply. I thank you in advance and apologize for clutter here.
 
@scottc
If you might be so kind, I have questions on the GL33. I think if you PM me I can reply. I thank you in advance and apologize for clutter here.
Hi Pprior. I sent you a PM just now. Hope it works on your end.
 
It did and posting this just to thank @ScottC publicly for being such a gracious and helpful person to someone learning about Greenline. Truly a credit this this forum, many thanks again.
 
It did and posting this just to thank @ScottC publicly for being such a gracious and helpful person to someone learning about Greenline. Truly a credit this this forum, many thanks again.

Don't want to intrude, but are you in Europe ? I visited GL at the BOOT fair in Dusseldorf, spoke at length with them and will go and visit the factory in Slovenia quite soon.
They do have a couple of boats lying in Porto Roz, Slovenia and have a service center in Lefkas, Greece. If you need a contact within GL I can forward you his contact details, he will be more than happy to help you.
 
Sorry no I'm in USA (Florida).
 
Sorry no I'm in USA (Florida).

Ok, no problem, just tried to help. If you ever make it to Europe, let me know, I will get you in contact with the right people. And no, I am not invested in GL, I have a Defever. :socool:
 
New to site.
Thinking about buyin a Greenline 40 hybrid.
Can anyone tell me how they handle the waves and does she sits on anchor. Any exssive rolling….
 
Welcome aboard, fakfej.
I cannot comment about how the GL40 handles on waves. But, since the bottom and fin design are about the same as on the GL33, I suspect it will behave similarly at anchor to my GL33. Neither boat has a keel. My GL33 will rock & roll at the dock or at anchor in certain conditions. More so than any motorboat with any type of keel. I carry and use Davis "rocker stoppers" which seem to tame the motion noticeably.
 
Thank you scott

I’m need to get used to this website. I apparently even singed up wrong as my name does not appear in post.
Rick
Again thanks. If anyone has comments on the Greenline 40 hybrid as far as driving / handling general seaworthyness I would appreciate the feedback
Thanks again all
Rick
 
Greenline 40

Hi Rick. We’ve owned a GL 39 Hybrid since 2019. Greenlines in general are designed to be strong/light based on their construction methods. While they are all certified Category B, you will likely notice more boat movement than a heavy displacement boat. Our 39 does well in waves but will get rocked sideways if they are crossways to the boat. This is more so at slower speeds, higher speeds result in some “form stability” in the hull from above displacement speeds. (Think about how the ride stabilizes when the boat is on a plane.) As for anchoring, most 33, 40 and 48’s have the side bow anchor configuration. I have heard owners comment that they tend to wander more at anchor as a result and also getting the correct anchor (for their cruising area) that fits in the side position can sometimes be challenging. GL offers a factory option for the straight bow anchor position for 40’s and 48’s. I would go that route if I were ordering a new build. Note that will add some LOA. 39 and 45’s are standard straight bow configured. Hope that helps!
 
Yes thank you! We previously had a cat hull. Loved the stability at rest and speed. I wondered about the anchor position. When I asked the salesman he just said it was to make it look like a bigger ship! But absolutely thouhjtvwe would sway at anchor a lot! He did say I could switch to center bow anchor! But felt it wasn’t important. Two issues I think about
First here in Florida I imagine we would be running air most of time at night.How long will battery hold out!
Since the engine are under salon how noisy does it get. I took a short test ride but mostly on electric. When I mentioned noise of diesel’s. I was to
D most put down a carpet to help reduce noise!
Well thank you for any personal knowledge you may wish to share. Good or bad!
I love the design of the boat being a single floor open model . Never really liked walking down into the hull
 
Hi Rick- If you are in Florida, you probably want to get the "tropical air" package which adds at least one AC unit. Because of all the glass and the sunroofs, these boats can heat up. We had our boat on the East Coast (Annapolis and north) for a couple of seasons before we shipped her out to the Pacific Northwest. You will definitely want additional batteries. The AC units are by far the biggest battery users. When we were on a mooring, we could usually get by on one AC unit running and our one battery but needed to do a "harbor spin" the next day to recharge. The LiPo batteries only recharge under diesel load not at idle, however, they do recharge pretty quickly (1 to 1.5 hours.) On a 40, you'll have two LiPo batteries as standard (one for each engine.) I would likely opt for additional batteries for more flexibility at anchor. Finally, if you haven't already you might want to join the Greenline Yachts Owners Group on Facebook. There are some pretty active owners there with lots of insights on their Greenlines. There are a bunch of GL40 owners.

As for engine noise, they are reasonably quiet for a powerboat. I am not sure how much difference a carpet will make. I would definitely sea trial again with the diesels running to gauge the noise level for yourself.

Jon
 
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I hope the boat you are looking at has cocoons around the engines. That helps a lot with noise. When it was time for new carpets for my boat, I put 1/2" dense rubber padding under the carpet at the helm to make it more comfortable for standing at the helm for hours. The padding I used is the same type of padding used on concrete floors at, say, cashier desks in a Home Depot or the like. I liked the "comfort" results so much I decided to put this same rubber padding under the carpet for the entire salon. I did not do it for noise reasons, as the boat was reasonably quiet on diesel already - but wow - what a difference it made! We can run at cruising speed on diesel and hold a low-voice conversation without any problem.
 
I hope the boat you are looking at has cocoons around the engines. That helps a lot with noise. When it was time for new carpets for my boat, I put 1/2" dense rubber padding under the carpet at the helm to make it more comfortable for standing at the helm for hours. The padding I used is the same type of padding used on concrete floors at, say, cashier desks in a Home Depot or the like. I liked the "comfort" results so much I decided to put this same rubber padding under the carpet for the entire salon. I did not do it for noise reasons, as the boat was reasonably quiet on diesel already - but wow - what a difference it made! We can run at cruising speed on diesel and hold a low-voice conversation without any problem.

That sounds like a good idea. Thanks for sharing that.
 
I am also new to this site + thinking about buying a Greenline 40 (hybrid).
I'm not sure about the 2 engines (= 2 problems, more consumption …).
Has anyone tried how the boat drives with just one engine? Does it hold its course? Is it a pleasant and more economical way to drive or is it not recommended?
Thx a lot for your appreciated responses!
 
The GL 40 was only produced with twin engines.
I have never operated a GL40, so I can't specifically say how it would handle on one engine.
However, if you search around on this site, you will find a number of discussions on this topic.
After having read these threads over the years, it seems the general consensus is to not operate a twin engine boat on a single engine, unless you absolutely have to. The benefits just aren't enough. One thing I recall many discussing is that one typically must secure the shaft on the non-running engine from turning due to prop action. I think so as to not risk damage to the transmission.
 
I am also new to this site + thinking about buying a Greenline 40 (hybrid).
I'm not sure about the 2 engines (= 2 problems, more consumption …).
Has anyone tried how the boat drives with just one engine? Does it hold its course? Is it a pleasant and more economical way to drive or is it not recommended?
Thx a lot for your appreciated responses!
I own a Greenline 40 which I keep on the Thames. I often just use one engine as it puts a bit more load on it which is better for the engine, otherwise with 2 engines they are operating barely above tickover to keep to the speed limit. The boat handles and steers very well needing just a small amount of permanent help while on one engine. The gearboxes are designed to be able to 'freewheel' so there is no need to lock the other shaft.
 
I, too, am contemplating purchase of GL40. We plan on navigating the Great Loop and the Bahamas. We hope to anchor out most of the time. The small black water capacity is concerning. For two people, how long should we reasonably expect to have before pumping out? Are there financially reasonable options?
Next question, we must feel comfortable. What is a reasonable solution to instability underway and at anchor? Should we budget for a Seakeeper, or is there a more budget-friendly solution, or is this not really a problem for our intended use? Is Zipwake Pro a viable solution?
On the resale market, we do not find GL40s with stability solutions, so the passive fins may be enough. I value your insights. Thanks.
 
Firstly, if you are going to do the cruising you suggest, I would certainly go with the diesel-only or hybrid configuration and not the all-electric configuration. In part because the faster you go with the fins, the better they do their stabilizing job. At least this has been my experience on the GL33.

At anchor, my GL33 with fins can be quite uncomfortable with rocking. I bought some Davis flopper stoppers and they help, reducing the roll by ~20% but they are a real nuisance and take a lot of room to store. I long for something like a SeaKeeper.

I have 4xZipWake 450's on my GL33, which I installed to get the bow down on the rare occasions when I run over 7 1/2 knots. They work well for this. And at the high end of the speed range, the ZipWakes result in an approximate 15% fuel savings for the same speed. BUT, if your interest is primarily stability, I would not recommend ZipWake. In beam-seas, I can notice a difference with them on vs. off. But it's only a 5-10% improvement.

I would seriously look into a SeaKeeper instead -- if you have the space, the energy, the weight capacity and the budget. I was very interested in a SeaKeeper, but quickly came to realize that the size and weight would be impractical for my GL33. It might be feasible for a GL40, however.

As far as the small black water capacity - that's a minor thing. Don't let that stop you. It's easily addressed by plumbing in an extra tank. My GL33 came with a 63L tank and I had an additional tank of 67L custom built to fit an oddly-shaped space in my bilge. Alternative solutions abound for this, so it's not a show-stopper for your purchase.
 
Thank you for your nuanced and thoughtful response. I am glad to learn about the black water solution. I would only get a hybrid vessel. I need to really drill down on the energy requirements of a Seakeeper or Quick to ensure sufficient power on batteries only.
 
I am a newer, less experienced owner than Scott but would also say that if you plan to anchor out then you should stay away from electric only. Our use case is very different and our electric only requires staying at marinas more than anchoring.

The blackwater tank was also one of our big questions before buying one. We rented a GL39 in Norway with that size blackwater tank and 4 people had to pump it out 2 or 3 times during a 7 day trip. We upgraded to a 50 gallon tank.
 
I am a newer, less experienced owner than Scott but would also say that if you plan to anchor out then you should stay away from electric only. Our use case is very different and our electric only requires staying at marinas more than anchoring.

The blackwater tank was also one of our big questions before buying one. We rented a GL39 in Norway with that size blackwater tank and 4 people had to pump it out 2 or 3 times during a 7 day trip. We upgraded to a 50 gallon tank.
50 gallon tank seems ideal, not too large to be impactful to handling and seaworthiness.
 
I am thankful for this forum, it’s difficult to find owners’ who share ownership experiences.
Now, for a surveyor question. We have the opportunity to acquire a used GL40 in either western Florida or coastal North Carolina. I am having difficulty in locating a surveyor who has experience with the unique hybrid systems found on these vessels. I want piece of mind from en expert. Your advice is much appreciated.
 

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