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Hello all,
Eric here from Panama City Beach Florida. My wife and I are looking to buy a trawler to travel the east coast ICW and the Bahamas. We are currently looking at a Monk 36'. Will that be enough boat for those travels? My last vessel was a 57' Carver which would have been no issue, but a 36'? Let me know what you think please.
 
Eric, welcome aboard the TF. Dimensionally the 36' Monk is a handy boat for the traveling you intend. Her length and beam will fit easily into marina slips and alongside crowded face docks, and at less than 4', her draft allows access to a wide assortment of anchorages. As far as I know the 36' Monk was never offered with anything other than a single engine, which IMO is good. Twins in a 36' trawler-style yacht make for tight quarters in the engine compartment, even with the Monk's 13' maximum beam. When you have to spend time around the machinery, you'll be glad there's just one main engine. Plus, a single propellor and rudder means the running gear is better protected from debris or grounding.

Only you and Mrs. Henderson can decide whether the cabin arrangement is livable for cruising. I find it to be a nice though rather compact package. The salon and aft stateroom are a bit snug, but for a couple it would be ample. Add guests . . . different story. OTOH, lots of folks cruise far and wide in smaller boats than the Monk, and quite happily.

Try finding one to bareboat charter for a few days.
 
Really depends on wants and desires.

I looked at 36 footers and decided they were a bit small to handle full time or lengthy cruising. My 40 Albin barely met the challenge.

To cruise places that are a bit "out of the way", carrying ships stores can overwhelm smaller boats.

Sure smaller vessels can do it. After selling my 40 and buying a 19 footer, I have been thinking what trailerable vessel can do the Bahamas, Keys and other short 1-2 week cruises. That's pretty easy to fulfill, but to do this for months on end, who wants to run anywhere to stock up on food, water, etc. Sure a lot can be stuffed into smaller boats, but face it.... how many times in life do we favor smaller spaces over larger?

People love their 36's, but since you have experience with larger vessels, I bet you can pretty well guess at the tradeoffs.... you just have to decide what stuff you want to bring along and what systems will make it the most enjoyable. Sometimes you just can't stuff all that into a smaller vessel.
 
Really depends on wants and desires.

I looked at 36 footers and decided they were a bit small to handle full time or lengthy cruising. My 40 Albin barely met the challenge.

To cruise places that are a bit "out of the way", carrying ships stores can overwhelm smaller boats.

Sure smaller vessels can do it. After selling my 40 and buying a 19 footer, I have been thinking what trailerable vessel can do the Bahamas, Keys and other short 1-2 week cruises. That's pretty easy to fulfill, but to do this for months on end, who wants to run anywhere to stock up on food, water, etc. Sure a lot can be stuffed into smaller boats, but face it.... how many times in life do we favor smaller spaces over larger?

People love their 36's, but since you have experience with larger vessels, I bet you can pretty well guess at the tradeoffs.... you just have to decide what stuff you want to bring along and what systems will make it the most enjoyable. Sometimes you just can't stuff all that into a smaller vessel.
Thank you for your insight. I originally didnt want to go below a 39'. Preferably a 42'. So thanks for getting me back on track.
 
I took a Mainship 350 around the loop for a year and to the Bahamas. It more about self sufficiency if going to central and south Bahamas.

Clark
 
Thank you for your insight. I originally didnt want to go below a 39'. Preferably a 42'. So thanks for getting me back on track.
That would be my size range if I had to do it all over again. For those that need less or willing to short cruise/replenish often.... small vessels can be fun/perfect even if glorified camping.

Oh, forgot.... crew size is absolutely important. I am speaking of 2 as crew size, add any and start adding feet.
 

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Hello all,
Eric here from Panama City Beach Florida. My wife and I are looking to buy a trawler to travel the east coast ICW and the Bahamas. We are currently looking at a Monk 36'. Will that be enough boat for those travels? My last vessel was a 57' Carver which would have been no issue, but a 36'? Let me know what you think please.

Somewhere between "it depends" and "only you can decide"...

Probably a big step down from a 57' -- but maybe you can use your memories of the Carver and how you used it to guide your thoughts about the shorter/skinnier/slower Monk. Separate activity spaces? For everyone? Good congregation space? Et cetera...

The boat by itself is likely big enough to be mostly comfortable in those waters, assuming you can do the crossing comfortably. The wild cards will probably be you and crew... and how that all works with the boat once you're hanging out at the destinations.

-Chris
 
@Eric T Henderson -i realize you're looking at a Monk 36 trunk cabin trawler, but here's another option in a similar price point that might be of interest. This PT38 Europa in New Bern NC that just hit the TF Classifieds $75k. Too bad there aren't more pictures but might be worth a look. There are a couple PT38s for sale in PNW so you can scroll Yacht world for general pictures.

@FriendShip

Good luck -

Peter
 
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Might want to consider something with a bit more outdoor sitting space for warm weather. A sedan style, while a bit tighter interior, feels a bit more spacious and usable.


I know trunk cabin trawlers have a fly bridge, but it's detached from the living space.

Peter
that Europa sure looks like the perfect size for two to cruise the eastern seaboard / Bahamas - not based on any experience, just browsing here and there, but sure seems what we'd look for when the time comes which is hopefully just another year or two.

just worried about insurance since the largest vessel we ever owned was 28' but of course, does not seem an issue for Mr Henderson, previously with the 57' Carver
 
Welcome aboard. A 36' will work fine as long as it provides enough room for your comfort. We've done it in a 37' sailboat but prefer our 48' trawler.
 
I've been to the Bahamas 4 times, each time about 3-5 months, so I'm by no means an expert at this. But this is what I found essential and helpful in the Bahamas.
A watermaker is essential unless you want to spend your days hauling water. Lots of food (and beverage) stores, including ample freezer space. Food is expensive and basic in the Bahamas.
A good dinghy that is reliable and capable in bigger waves.
Good gound tackle. We saw localized winds over 70 kts one night, lightening and heavy rain.
Space for spare parts. You may not find what you need in the Bahamas.
Stabilizers are nice to have so aren't so dependent on the weather.
Shallow draft is nice to get to some of the more secluded and protected anchrages.
Starlink is nice to get weather updates and to stay in touch.

I hope that helps.
 
For Bahama cruises of 3 to 5 months we loved the comfort and capacity of our CHB 46’ Present. With a 36 gph water maker, 182 gallons of water storage, an ice maker, 500 gallons of fuel, sufficient freezer capacity, and solar panels we feel very independent and self sufficient.
FYI, due to health issues, she is also for sale.
 
Hello all,
Eric here from Panama City Beach Florida. My wife and I are looking to buy a trawler to travel the east coast ICW and the Bahamas. We are currently looking at a Monk 36'. Will that be enough boat for those travels? My last vessel was a 57' Carver which would have been no issue, but a 36'? Let me know what you think please.
Yes that boat can do it weather permitting. We cruised alongside a 36 Monk on the loop and they did fantastic. Go for it you’ll Luvit
 
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That is expensive for anything under a month, but may be fair if staying all winter.
 
And anchoring charge
 
Wow!

(2) The fee for a temporary cruising permit referred to under paragraph (1) shall be, for a vessel –
  • (a) not exceeding thirty-four feet in length, $500.00 for a period not exceeding twelve months;
  • (b) exceeding thirty-four feet in length, but not exceeding one hundred feet in length, $1000 for a period not exceeding twelve months;
  • (c) in excess of one hundred feet in length, $3000 for a period not exceeding twelve months.
$1,000 for our boat? I guess we're not going to the Bahamas any more. :nonono:
 
Wow!

(2) The fee for a temporary cruising permit referred to under paragraph (1) shall be, for a vessel –
  • (a) not exceeding thirty-four feet in length, $500.00 for a period not exceeding twelve months;
  • (b) exceeding thirty-four feet in length, but not exceeding one hundred feet in length, $1000 for a period not exceeding twelve months;
  • (c) in excess of one hundred feet in length, $3000 for a period not exceeding twelve months.
$1,000 for our boat? I guess we're not going to the Bahamas any more. :nonono:

Maybe you need a bigger boat. Gotta admit that $3k for >100-footer isnt too bad :)

I wonder what's driving these high fees? $1k is a lot - seems like they're discouraging cruisers. Probably yet another instance of bureaucrats who have no notion that taxes influence behavior.

Peter
 
The AIS requirement leads me to think that the changes are an attempt to increase oversight against drug and gun shipments. More expensive, and we know who and where you are.
 
Maybe you need a bigger boat. Gotta admit that $3k for >100-footer isnt too bad :)

I wonder what's driving these high fees? $1k is a lot - seems like they're discouraging cruisers. Probably yet another instance of bureaucrats who have no notion that taxes influence behavior.

Peter
Everyone seems to be actually discouraging tourism.... not entirely, but the one way is start charging or charging more.

National parks may start charging foreigners more.

The Louvre Museum in Paris had an employee walkout due to too many visitors.

Marinas and RV parks were overflowing and in vacation spots probably still.... and prices are rapidly rising and that goes for vacation rentals as well.

1K sounds like a lot but seems to me that visitors that come and anchor out get a lot for their money depending on what else they spend on while visiting. Steep for maybe a week, but those that stay a month or more... not so much in today's money oriented world.
 
Wow!

(2) The fee for a temporary cruising permit referred to under paragraph (1) shall be, for a vessel –
  • (a) not exceeding thirty-four feet in length, $500.00 for a period not exceeding twelve months;
  • (b) exceeding thirty-four feet in length, but not exceeding one hundred feet in length, $1000 for a period not exceeding twelve months;
  • (c) in excess of one hundred feet in length, $3000 for a period not exceeding twelve months.
$1,000 for our boat? I guess we're not going to the Bahamas any more. :nonono:
So you wouldn't spend $ 1000 to spend the winter in the Bahamas? Yes it seems excessive but not enough of a reason to not go. Many places have fees or tourism taxes added to rental cars and accommodations that do the same thing. It seems all countries have figured tourists will pay to play.
Hollywood
 
Like most taxes, politicians often use flawed statistics when trying to justify how much additional revenue will be generated by a new tax. Made up Example:

10,000 boats visiting in 1 quarter. Previously charged $300 usd for a visit. 10,000 x $300 = $3 million in revenue for that quarter! Easy right?

Here's where it goes wonky. The supporters claim that if the charge is raised to $1,000/visit, the revenue magically generated will increase to $10 million! A $7 million increase, right? That's good, right?

Here's the reality: By raising the fee from $300 to $1,000, "many", possibly, or perhaps even probably, a SIGNIFICANT number of those 10,000 cruisers will chose not to pay the 333% increase ($300 to $10,000).
With me so far?

Okay, here's where it goes even more sideways, and demonstrates why raising fees often actually REDUCES government revenue.

Our fictional cruising couple cruises to the Bahamas on their 40' pleasure boat.
  • Our intrepid cruisers arrive at the customs check-in, stay on the dock (marina fee paid), clear in (cruising permit purchased), go out to eat, buy groceries, fuel, water, clothing,
  • They move on to another town, this time they anchor out, and pay an anchorage fee, and a dinghy dock fee, dine out multiple times, drink Sundowners at the local bars, visit with other cruisers,
  • They move to another town, stay in another marina, dine out multiple times, buy groceries, fuel, water, clothing, etc
  • They run into some mechanical issues, hire a mechanic to fix the issues, pay wages, buy parts from the States, pay import duties on this parts, repair their boat, and then move on to the next island.
rinse and repeat, you get the picture.

So, LOTS of $$ get paid into the local economies, to the fuel docks, marinas, restaurants, grocery stores, tour guides, etc, and I mean LOTS of $$$$, WAY more than the cruising permit paid to stay for say three months.

Now moving along, let's assume that 33% of those cruisers decide that with the 333% increase in cruising permit (actually more than that, as the fishing licenses that used to be included in the $300 cruising permit NOW has to be purchased separately at an ANOTHER ADDITIONAL COST!
Boat length under 34' is $100.00 additional if you want to fish
34' and up is now $300.00 additional if you want to fish

If you go by the poll on Face Book where people are discussing the increased Cruising Permit Fees, of 1,740 people responding, NINETY % said they will with no longer go to the Bahamas with the increased fees!
Only 10% said they will pay the fee and still go to the Bahamas.

I guess that's ONE way to reduce congestion in anchorages!

Seriously, many long stay cruisers may still go, but I foresee a SIGNIFICANT downturn in cruisers that visit short term, and a SIGNIFICANT number of marginal businesses/restaurants, etc that will go in many of the smaller destinations if they keep this 333+% fee increase in place. . . .

If these fees are still in effect in November, we will cancel our November - March trip to the Bahamas, and will go elsewhere.

I feel really sorry for the business owners in the Bahamas

Note: The Bahamas Immigration Department's annual statistics page shows that in the first quarter of 2023, there were 13,436 permits approved. However, this is for all permits, not specifically cruising permits, and it is only for the first three months of the year. They didn't break it down specifically into cruising permits.
 
So you wouldn't spend $ 1000 to spend the winter in the Bahamas? Yes it seems excessive but not enough of a reason to not go. Many places have fees or tourism taxes added to rental cars and accommodations that do the same thing. It seems all countries have figured tourists will pay to play.
Hollywood

hollywood, that $1,000 is ACTUALLY $1,300 if you include the $300 fishing fee for a boat over 34' in length, and which was previously included in the $300 fee. Just so we're talking apples vs apples . . .

Our cruising season this Winter is going to be broken into two parts, with a trip back to Florida required for April for family reasons, so if we head BACK to the Bahamas, we will actually be required to pay for TWO permits, and TWO fishing licenses for a total of $2,600 for two trips.

Another option would be to pay $2,500 initially for a Two Year permit with unlimited visits (plus $300 additional each trip for the fishing license)
Yep, as newcomers to Florida, there are LOTS of other places we plan on visiting before we pay the new Bahamas rates.
 
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Not sure many of the assumptions above are accurate.

Maybe the cruising types now not only willing to pay the $1K now are they types to spend all those bucks in the Bahamas anyway.

The ones cringing at it are the ones that may spend very little anyway when over there.

Maybe the target audience are the weekend trippers from the US that are a PIA many levels at no matter where they go. The long distance types and loopers, etc see it as a once in a lifetime stop and will pay as $1K is a spit compared to their whole adventure.

Trying to rationalize and fit it all into an economy discussion often are just wild guesses until the other side of the coin has run it's course and then useful data is available.

Maybe the Bahamas are just experimenting.

Though I hate the concept, but pricing the masses out of recreational places to keep them nice and available if tourists want to/can spend the dough seems to be the norm nowadays. Though my inner self is resigned to pay top dollar for what I really enjoy in life. Excluding wannabe part timers that have come across more money than me but to them it's just one more activity to fill their time/ego, I say...... "great they aren't around anymore" if pricing them out actually works.
 
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Yeah, I agree that it all makes total economic sense, but I still hate that we live in a world where this has to happen. It's a classic "Tragedy of the Commons" situation. Just like marinas around here have skyrocketed in price, and all the anchorages are filling up with moorings. When there's a shared resource that everyone wants, in the end it's only those with the money who get access to it.

Which brings me back to the OP. I was going to say with the new fees, you want a 34-footer! There are some out there which are capable, and fairly roomy.
 
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