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slowbathtub

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We have a 2008 new to us 60’ PH Trawler that has been neglected on the outside. Gel coat has been faded out and cut through in several places and the whole boat needs to be painted. We knew this going in and offset the price accordingly.
I have heard good reports of going to Guatemala for a decent job at a good price but would also like to get some US quotes. Looking for recommendations for good yards that are reasonable. Not “get what you pay for” cheap places but good quality reasonable price for the work done. Anywhere from MD to Florida.
 
Following out of curiosity. No idea what you are considering as a reasonable price but I would suspect $100k+ if you are looking for well prepped, sprayed, Awlgrip or similar. Maybe find someone to TIP and Roll at half that price.
 
I have not gotten quotes, but know of a few boats in similar size done in the $100k range and that was a few years ago. To spray it will most likely need to be in an enclosure. In our area they build them around the boat with visqueen and skaffolds. I think that alone is $20k. There have been many high end boats that use the roll tip in production and you might be able to get away with doing sections at a time on the right days, but you will see the seams with Awlgrip so you have to do whole sections at once. Alexseal is the new kid on the block and is supposedly blendable and buffable. It supposedly can be rolled without tipping. If it were me and you don’t want to tent, I’d be researching the Alexseal.
 
Check out the YouTube Boatworks Today channel. Andy Miller there is a pro boat repairer and an Alexseal dealer so a bit biased, but he got into selling it after using it with impressive results. The no tip additive looks like a game changer, if I was contemplating a big paint project I'd definitely be looking into it.
 
The expense is labor for prep - removing hardware, filling holes, applying sandable primer, sanding smooth, faring/long-board sanding, spray, buffing, inevitable touch-ups, re-install hardware. To do a quality job on an entire boat (vs hull-only), spraying is faster than roll/tip. Once prepped, an entire 60-footer can be sprayed by one guy and a helper in a day. No idea how long it would take to roll around all the windows, cleats, and other non-removable hardware, but probably 4-guys working 10-days or so. Keeping a wet-edge is impossibe.

I'm not really sure how much I paid in Ensenada MX 4-years ago because I had so much other work done - somewhere in the $25k range but that included some extras such as re-fiberglassing large holes from old speakers and depth/speed instruments. I also had my wood caprails encapsulated which was money well spent. The was driving between Ensenada and San Diego frequently and picked-up supplies for the yard. The painting supplies really added up: paint, primer, solvents, tyvek suits, sandpaper, etc. probably exceeded $4k or so.

When I was considering having the work done in the US, I asked around California and Florida. Surprisingly, yard rates weren't that much different and no one was interested in discounted labor for a large project - around $125/hr even in rural parts of Florida where I thought they might be hungrier for long project.

Personally, I'd head to Rio Dulce Guatemala but with caution. There is a ton of online chatter that always cautions "you have to oversee the project daily" implying that foreign yards will rip you off or are incompetent. In my opinion, boatwork is exceedingly custom and a ton of questions come up all the time and if you don't really know your stuff or aren't available to answer questions, work will halt (and sometimes the billable meter doesn't). That's a problem with boat work, not foreign boatyards. If the expectation is to drop a boat off as you would a Toyota at an auto body shop and pick up 2-weeks later, you're in for a very rude awakening no matter where you have the work done.

From my experience having work done in Ensenada, which is 80-miles south of San Diego, I could avoid the high cost of parts and supplies outside the US (316 stainless is difficult to source). But there was a noticeable lack of productivity enhancements at the yard. A quality US yard has a full wood shop, metal shop, machine shop, and paint shop and full compliment of power tools. Every yard I've seen in a developing country has adequate tools to get the job done, but require additional labor to make it right. For example, instead of a large Delta table saw, they might have a smaller contractor 10" saw. So while the labor rate is lower, there is some loss of savings due to productivity.

I bumped into a guy in Barra de Navidad MX last year who had very nice work done at a Rio Dulce yard. Pretty sure it was "RAM" (HERE).

Good luck - as a guess, over/under is around $125k US; $80k in Guatemala once you include some of the peripheral costs of having work done so far from home.

Peter
 
Might want to look at Roll and tip method of painting. Er rolled and tip the white of the hull for under 500.00. Also we roll and tip areas the need repainting every year. The prep work is 80% of the cost and work.
 
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