While I may agree with a lot of what you say about PMM, the new look website seems to be getting a lot more activity than here lately. Many of us are on both sites and can see the merits of both,* I think we need to be careful that this thread doesn't drive TF memebrs over to PMM.* I go to PMM first (most activity) then here (Less activity but some really neat off beat threads) and then onto Living Aboard Forums as neither PMM or TF really cater for living aboard, which is where we are at. Just some thoughts from the bottom of the world