Beautiful but I don't like the helm layout at all. No room and those displays will be very hard to see or control. How could a second person use the chart table or the bunk?
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Beautiful but I don't like the helm layout at all. No room and those displays will be very hard to see or control. How could a second person use the chart table or the bunk?
Absolutely horrible. I looked into it twice in my younger years. Fishing trawler generally have more potential.
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I agree,fishboats make much better conversion candidates
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Commercial Trawler conversion & she's got a Gardener! https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1947/Custom-Trawler-Classic-Wood-Yacht-3014048/
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That's not a trawler. That's a troller. AKA a fishboat.
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In my mind the Queen of all commercial conversions is Grayling. Doug Hylan kindly took me aboard her at the WoodenBoat Show up at Mystic Seaport many years ago & I was quite taken by her. He really made a name for himself with her restoration & conversion from a Sardine Carrier.
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Well, no matter the size of your ride - Herzlich willkommen, Velkominn, Bienvenue
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But this one is a true tug - with 2 x Caterpillar D-379, 1300 hp total
https://www.pacificboatbrokers.com/used-boats-for-sale/WS5065/tugboat-for-sale.asp
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Carl,
Interesting boats you point out. However, I would suggest, not for the "main stream" (vast majority of) pleasure boater???
Every pleasure boater needs and/or wants 1300 hp in their boat.
However, it does illustrate the principle that there are vastly different tastes out there.
Interesting boats you point out. However, I would suggest, not for the "main stream" (vast majority of) pleasure boater???
Every pleasure boater needs and/or wants 1300 hp in their boat.
However, it does illustrate the principle that there are vastly different tastes out there.
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Carl,
Interesting boats you point out. However, I would suggest, not for the "main stream" (vast majority of) pleasure boater???
Every pleasure boater needs and/or wants 1300 hp in their boat.
However, it does illustrate the principle that there are vastly different tastes out there.
The reality is that none of the boats that anyone on this forum owns are "mainstream". Mainstream in this country is a small center console fishing boat. Who cares? Mainstream is boring.
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Anybody mention Kasten's 25' Boojum yet? Crazy huge range and ocean crossing potential:
25' Tug Yacht Boojum - Kasten Marine Design
25' Tug Yacht Boojum - Kasten Marine Design
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Yes to all. (Fast trawlers are an oxymoron.)
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Every pleasure boater needs and/or wants 1300 hp in their boat.
No, that is one-and-a-half times too much.
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Well we are talking about real tugs - that was one example. Granted 1300hp is a bit on the high side, but it's not exactly out of the ordinary. Most harbour tugs are single 500-750 hp engines. MS river pusher boats have two or three engines 1100hp each (but they are not real tugs).
Mine is the newest model that was ordered in 2017 to meet the more stringent IMO 2020 emissions. Rather than altering the entire tug fleet with scrubbers, it was decided to sell all but one and order three new.
At 35m in length and 15.5m beam and 5.5m draft it has twin Rolls-Royce Bergen C26:33L6PG, spark ignition, lean-burn engines fueled entirely by LNG, and developing a combined output of 3,410kW (approximately 4,574 bhp) at 1,000 rpm. Each engine is coupled to a Rolls-Royce US35 fully azimuthing propulsion unit of the latest type, incorporating propellers of 3,000mm diameter.
Cryro AB 80.0 m3 capacity double-walled tank, cold boxes and gas heating system. Twin Nordhavn auxiliary generators, powered by Scania diesel engines rated at 300kVA, 240kW, 400 volts 50Hz. Fuel 20.0 m3
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While interesting to see large "working tugs", I am not sure that is what the OP intended to talk and/or ask about. These are not and probably never will be anyone's "pleasure boat".
But if it makes you happy, carry on. But I would suggest, maybe a new thread?
JMHO.
But if it makes you happy, carry on. But I would suggest, maybe a new thread?
JMHO.
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beautiful fishboat to yacht conversion.
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Bartender boats..... Most are wood but thee are some alloy hulls out there.
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well big boy, how about we pit your bad-ass tug against my little rocket. Wonder who would win in a tug-of-war
I'm taking bets now.
Nice ride, do you own it? Can't compete with non owners
I haven't heard that term before. What is a "bartender" boat?
I suppose all of us tax-payers own it. I get to help launch it but unfortunately will never get to ride in it. Still a big thrill though
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Mako,
Bartender boats are a light plywood boat about 20’ normal in every way but they are pointy at both ends.
They call them “double enders” but they have a straight run aft and are definitely planing hulls. Probably rough riding as they are quite flat on the bottom but I think they have some benefit from being pointy in the stern in following seas and similar conditions.
Nice looking boats especially the hull lines.
Bartender boats are a light plywood boat about 20’ normal in every way but they are pointy at both ends.
They call them “double enders” but they have a straight run aft and are definitely planing hulls. Probably rough riding as they are quite flat on the bottom but I think they have some benefit from being pointy in the stern in following seas and similar conditions.
Nice looking boats especially the hull lines.
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bartenderboats.com
a boat brand that sells plans for wooden boats.
Here is an example of 22ft AL hull. I think it is listed for sale elsewhere
https://www.facebook.com/bartenderb...in-port-townsend-looking-go/1217875011719891/
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Dan,
I think the designer named that design “Bartender” and many were built by various boat yards. “Bartender” is not a brand. To the best of my knowledge.
I think the designer named that design “Bartender” and many were built by various boat yards. “Bartender” is not a brand. To the best of my knowledge.
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The original Bartender was a George Calkins design. It is a fast, light-weight, double-ended, self-bailing, planing, surf dory style of boat. Bartender is a registered trademark.
https://bartenderboats.com/
https://www.tadroberts.ca/services/small-boats/displacement/timbercoast22
Was on my short list of boats to build when I thought I wanted to build a bat.
https://bartenderboats.com/
https://www.tadroberts.ca/services/small-boats/displacement/timbercoast22
Was on my short list of boats to build when I thought I wanted to build a bat.
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