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Ok our survey is mostly complete. I am still waiting for the oil samples and mechanical survey to complete.
While i do not have the written reports, here is the list of the conclusions I can remember from the surveyor, the mechanic and the rigger.
During the sea trial the glendining controls briefly went offline for 20-30 seconds and then came back on line. This was an observation by my father in law during operation of the vessel. I was not present. The vessel does have the original cable controls that can be reconnected to the engines and transmissions.
Minor leak at the fuel tank inspection port.
Corrosion noted at a connection to the day fuel tank.
Leaking seal on starboard stabilizer. Corrosion also noted inside housing for post from an unknown part of the stabilizer. (the port stabilizer was replaced 2 years ago (or less)
The engines would only make 2500 RPM at 9 knots or so. The mechanic thinks the boat is over propped. The surveyor thinks the boat is overpropped. Others think the boat is overpropped. its a 52' (unsure of waterline length) 80,000lb displacement hull with twin lehman 135s and 3 bladed 24x17 props. Can anyone comment as to how much i need to repitch the props and how much that would cost? Or am I looking at new props? Or should I not worry about it? My thinking is that the engines should make full power even if full power is only needed occasionally during an emergency maneuver. and how much power difference is there between 2400 rpm and 2800 on an old FL135?
The mechanic thinks the engines need to be aligned. The surveyor noted the same thing as the propellers would not turn easily.
During delivery of the boat to the boat yard, the stbd engine needed to be shut down due to a failed water pump cooling the stabilizer hydraulic fluid. The deliver captain located the issue sand has a repair in progress for it.
The stbd engine hour meter is not working . the port engine has 2500 hours on it, but also does not run the stabilizers.
All the waste hoses need to be replaced as they are crystallized on the outside
The domestic water piping could use replacement soon (my own observation)
the inverter is stuffed in a locker with the house bank (six 6 volt) without good ventilation or access. wires were noted to be 40 degrees over ambient temperature. (check cable size and install vents in locker)
Last but worst is the pilothouse roof is de-laminated and has about 50% moisture content. It's quite spongy. The previous owner/delivery captain (not to be confused with the seller, said it was that way the entire time he owned it ,although he never volunteered that information anytime before the surveyor discovered it. The deck is about 11x11 ft. I asked the surveyor for a number to repair it and he made a call and the answer was 15-20k
There is of course a list of minor things that consist of an hour task here or there that i cant quite recall, but I am familiar enough with boats to know that this fairly normal maintenance issues.
The surveyor and his assistant were quite thorough and opened every compartment and tested every system they could.
I was thinking I should give the entire list of issues (which I dont have yet) to the broker and see what he says. Between the 2 major items (roof and stabilizer) i think we are talking about 25 grand or more. I know used boats have problems, but I was not make aware of aware of these issues before I made my offer, and my contract says i am released if not satisfied by the surveys
Can anyone comment on the best way I can approach this to have the most fair outcome for both the seller and myself?
Thanks
Scott
While i do not have the written reports, here is the list of the conclusions I can remember from the surveyor, the mechanic and the rigger.
During the sea trial the glendining controls briefly went offline for 20-30 seconds and then came back on line. This was an observation by my father in law during operation of the vessel. I was not present. The vessel does have the original cable controls that can be reconnected to the engines and transmissions.
Minor leak at the fuel tank inspection port.
Corrosion noted at a connection to the day fuel tank.
Leaking seal on starboard stabilizer. Corrosion also noted inside housing for post from an unknown part of the stabilizer. (the port stabilizer was replaced 2 years ago (or less)
The engines would only make 2500 RPM at 9 knots or so. The mechanic thinks the boat is over propped. The surveyor thinks the boat is overpropped. Others think the boat is overpropped. its a 52' (unsure of waterline length) 80,000lb displacement hull with twin lehman 135s and 3 bladed 24x17 props. Can anyone comment as to how much i need to repitch the props and how much that would cost? Or am I looking at new props? Or should I not worry about it? My thinking is that the engines should make full power even if full power is only needed occasionally during an emergency maneuver. and how much power difference is there between 2400 rpm and 2800 on an old FL135?
The mechanic thinks the engines need to be aligned. The surveyor noted the same thing as the propellers would not turn easily.
During delivery of the boat to the boat yard, the stbd engine needed to be shut down due to a failed water pump cooling the stabilizer hydraulic fluid. The deliver captain located the issue sand has a repair in progress for it.
The stbd engine hour meter is not working . the port engine has 2500 hours on it, but also does not run the stabilizers.
All the waste hoses need to be replaced as they are crystallized on the outside
The domestic water piping could use replacement soon (my own observation)
the inverter is stuffed in a locker with the house bank (six 6 volt) without good ventilation or access. wires were noted to be 40 degrees over ambient temperature. (check cable size and install vents in locker)
Last but worst is the pilothouse roof is de-laminated and has about 50% moisture content. It's quite spongy. The previous owner/delivery captain (not to be confused with the seller, said it was that way the entire time he owned it ,although he never volunteered that information anytime before the surveyor discovered it. The deck is about 11x11 ft. I asked the surveyor for a number to repair it and he made a call and the answer was 15-20k
There is of course a list of minor things that consist of an hour task here or there that i cant quite recall, but I am familiar enough with boats to know that this fairly normal maintenance issues.
The surveyor and his assistant were quite thorough and opened every compartment and tested every system they could.
I was thinking I should give the entire list of issues (which I dont have yet) to the broker and see what he says. Between the 2 major items (roof and stabilizer) i think we are talking about 25 grand or more. I know used boats have problems, but I was not make aware of aware of these issues before I made my offer, and my contract says i am released if not satisfied by the surveys
Can anyone comment on the best way I can approach this to have the most fair outcome for both the seller and myself?
Thanks
Scott
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