Jacksonville, FL Proposed Anchoring Restrictions

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Here’s our chance before it’s too late. Show up for the meeting our contact your representative if from Florida. The amendment is an add on to the legislation that prohibited over night anchoring in South Florida.

The January 2020 issue of the Riverside/Avondale/Ortega/Murray Hill “Resident” has the history on the proposed anchoring restrictions for the Ortega and Cedar Rivers (text attached). The amendment has not passed. I’ve been in contact with BoatUS, Government Affairs Group. They are aware of it and have been to Tallahassee lobbying against it. Their suggestion is to go to any local meetings and to contact our local representatives.

On January 15th at 9:30am there is a Jacksonville Waterway Commission meeting with the anchoring restrictions on the agenda. The more attendees the better. Anyone who wants to speak has to sign up at the hearing before the meeting. They’ll have 3 minutes to speak. Lena and/or I will be speaking.
January 15, 2020

Waterways Commission
City Hall - St. James Bldg.
1st Floor, Council Chamber
117 W. Duval Street

The Bills Text:

https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2020/606/BillText/Filed/PDF

The Bills history:

https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2020/606

https://issuu.com/residentnews/docs/riverside_resident_january_2020
 

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I’ve been through there many times and always thought the derelicts and sunken wrecks were a real eyesore. And I always wondered why the homeowners there put up with it. In a perfect world they would have simply removed the wrecks and the abandoned boats and then enforced existing laws. But we all have seen that it ain’t a perfect world.
 
But the answer is shutting down the area to overnight anchor outs? If they can’t enforce the laws that are on the books now, how are they going to enforce a new one?

Florida Statue 327.4107 clearly defines vessels “at risk of becoming derelict” and already prohibits them from anchoring or mooring. I‘ve never heard of that being used or enforced.

When the anti anchoring group that pushed for the law that passed in South Floirda, the deal was this is it, no amendments. Unfortunately that part never made it into the final bill. Now they want to amend that law. If it passes, I can see the anchoring restrictions start working their way down the coast.
 
If you read the newspaper article, they are talking about selective enforcement: if you don’t look like a wreck and you don’t have a noisy construction generator or stay too long you should be OK.
They did an inspection and found that around 1/2 of the 23 boats were not the issue, they also said that the 21 days notice period was in effect a 6 month process to get an offender remover. It all was paid for by boater registration funds at $4000 to $7000 per boat removed.
 
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Here’s the amendment to the bill and further down is what it will look like if it passes and is inserted into Florida Statue 327.4108.

There is nothing in there about selective enforcement or the sunset clause that Rep Duggan talks about in the article. Call me skeptic but if the law passes who’s going to take a chance of anchoring in a State banned anchoring area?

1 A bill to be entitled
2 An act relating to anchoring limitation areas;
3 amending s. 327.4108, F.S.; designating specified
4 waterways as anchoring limitation areas; providing an
5 effective date.
6
7 Be It Enacted by the Legislature of the State of Florida:
8
9 Section 1. Paragraph (d) is added to subsection (1) of
10 section 327.4108, Florida Statutes, to read:
11 327.4108 Anchoring of vessels in anchoring limitation
12 areas.—
13 (1) The following densely populated urban areas, which have
14 narrow state waterways, residential docking facilities, and
15 significant recreational boating traffic, are designated as
16 anchoring limitation areas:
17 (d) The Ortega River and the Cedar River in Duval County.
18 Section 2. This act shall take effect July 1, 2020.

https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2020/606/BillText/Filed/PDF

....327.4108 Anchoring of vessels in anchoring limitation areas.—
(1) The following densely populated urban areas, which have narrow state waterways, residential docking facilities, and significant recreational boating traffic, are designated as anchoring limitation areas:
(a) The section of Middle River lying between Northeast 21st Court and the Intracoastal Waterway in Broward County.
(b) Sunset Lake in Miami-Dade County.
(c) The sections of Biscayne Bay in Miami-Dade County lying between:
1. Rivo Alto Island and Di Lido Island.
2. San Marino Island and San Marco Island.
3. San Marco Island and Biscayne Island.
[(d) The Ortega River and the Cedar River in Duval County. HB 417, SB 606]
(2) To promote the public’s use and enjoyment of the designated waterway, except as provided in subsections (3) and (4), a person may not anchor a vessel at any time during the period between one-half hour after sunset and one-half hour before sunrise in an anchoring limitation area....
 
Read the article: the people that are going to be making the calls to the enforcers talk about being selective about who they call them on. In other words it’s about being able to roust the bums or move out the homeless. It’s part of a great American tradition, a tool to keep the undesirables away from the privileged. Nothing new. In practice it will mean that if you have a nice boat and don’t take up residence you can stay the night as you pass through.

BTW just showing up at a meeting will not be very effective unless it is accompanied with sizable campaign contributions to the appropriate politicians. You may not like it, but that’s how things have worked for the past 200+ years. It’s the Golden Rule: those with the gold make the rules. Usually the purpose of public hearings is to mollify the public into thinking they had some input into decisions that were made earlier behind closed doors in smoke filled rooms.
 
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Good Luck this Wednesday. Please keep us updated.
 
Thanks. Will do.
As a suggestion, if you're going to be against something at the meeting (the proposed changes), you will need overwhelming attendance to get attention of elected officials. Easier is to propose a sensible amendment. Work with your council-person ahead of time.

Madeira Beach, on the other side of Florida near St Pete, recently passed a similarly inspired ordinance that went into effect January 1 but has not been enforced....yet catalyst was a condo tower who had about 100 residents show up to a town council meeting. They will be the notification mechanism for enforcement - for those of a certain age, perhaps you may recall Mrs. Kravitz from "Bewitched"
 
I think we have good support which should be reflected in the attendance. The marina in the middle of this, Ortega Landing, has 1400 followers on their Facebook page and posted in our support. This was shared by Jax Sail and Power Squadron, America's Boating Club of NE Florida, North Florida Boating Alliance, North Florida Boating Club and Jax Waterways within minutes of being posted. There have been other shares since then.

We have local local marine business owners going. Boaters, well... we’re trying but it is like herding cats sometimes but I’m optimistic. If you’re in the area please show up for the meeting.

Yesterday we sent letters to every Senator on the Natural Resources committee, Community Affairs committee, and the Rules committee.

To get organized, I have been in contact with David Kennedy, BoatUS Governement Affairs, who has been to Tallahassee specifically for this amendment. I have also been working with Bonnie Basham, a paid lobbyist based in Tallahassee. She is presenting arguments today. The Senate bill will be in committee this afternoon at 3:30.

Everyone should contact their senators and representatives about HB 417 and SB 606. This may be a local issue now, but it could start a trend and take away accessible water for responsible boaters.

January 15, 2020, 9:30 am
Waterways Commission
City Hall - St. James Bldg.
1st Floor, Council Chamber
‪117 W. Duval Street‬
 

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We just got back from the Waterways committee meeting. It was scary for awhile. Homeowners gave a slide show (mainly photos of derelict boats). The WW committee expressed dismay, saying they didn’t know how bad it was and moved to vote in support of the bill. We stood up and asked them to hear public comment before voting which they did. We had 10 +/- people speak against the bill. Must have been convincing because they did a 180 and voted 8-1 OPPOSING HB417/SB606 and asking Tallahassee to provide funding to control derelict vessels.

Still work to be done, but a good start.
 
Well done you magnificent ten!
 
Great news! Thanks to all who went to bat for us!

It's frightening that legislators can be so stupid and/or lazy. Presented with graphic evidence of a real problem, they were quick to vote for a law that didn't offer a solution to that problem.

This is how bad legislation happens. It's easy to "check the box" on some feel-good law and be done with it. It's far harder to find real solutions.
 
Larry, regret that I missed this thread until just now. Thanks for the updates and for the effective representation at the Waterways Commission.
 
We just got back from the Waterways committee meeting. It was scary for awhile. Homeowners gave a slide show (mainly photos of derelict boats). The WW committee expressed dismay, saying they didn’t know how bad it was and moved to vote in support of the bill. We stood up and asked them to hear public comment before voting which they did. We had 10 +/- people speak against the bill. Must have been convincing because they did a 180 and voted 8-1 OPPOSING HB417/SB606 and asking Tallahassee to provide funding to control derelict vessels.

Still work to be done, but a good start.

Way to go, Larry. Was AGLCA represented in your group?
 
Great news! Thanks to all who went to bat for us!

It's frightening that legislators can be so stupid and/or lazy. Presented with graphic evidence of a real problem, they were quick to vote for a law that didn't offer a solution to that problem.

This is how bad legislation happens. It's easy to "check the box" on some feel-good law and be done with it. It's far harder to find real solutions.

Yup, sausage-making for sure in the Sunshine State. More often than stupid or lazy, however, it’s ill-informed and sometimes bought-off . . . which is why it’s great that Larry & Co were there. I’ll still stick with Churchill, though: ”Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…”
 
Were not out of the woods yet. The legislative season just started. We need to let our legislators know how we feel.
 
Important lesson on why more citizens need to be vocal and active in government so these types of minority positions don’t become law.

Most politicians like operating within their cozy group of friends and like minded associates and don’t generally like it when the masses get involved. It makes them nervous when the majority raises their voices. We need to make them more nervous.
 
How ‘bout we get some legislators to push a bill requiring the removal of derelict structures visible from any navigable Florida waters? Then we apply it to MacMansions to help lawmakers grasp the distinction between rational and irrational legislation. ;)
 

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Do you have a cookie cutter language and list of legislature email addresses to send such a letter?
 
Here’s a canned reply and a link to all Florida’s legislators. You can cut and paste. Click on their name and their email link comes up. You could (should) cc Rep. Duggan, the original author of HB417 and Senator Bean SB 606.

It has already passed one committee. I’m waiting to hear what the next two are. When I get that information, I will post who the committee members are. In the mean time you can contact your local legislators.

https://public.lobbytools.com/

I am writing to express my opposition to HB 417 and SB 606 which seek to restrict anchoring on the Ortega and Cedar rivers in Jacksonville. The problem here and in other areas of Florida is not anchored boats, it's abandoned and derelict vessels. Creation of yet another anchoring limitation area is the wrong approach to managing the problem.

We need to enforce current regulations not enact new ones. Chapter 327.4107, Florida Statutes, provides the tools necessary to identify and manage at risk vessels of concern. It is already against Florida law to keep a vessel that is “at risk of becoming derelict” at anchor.

The answer for everyone is TOUGH ENFORCEMENT of existing laws. FWC MUST make it a priority to check on vessels when they hear citizen’s concerns or see them anchored for a long period of time.

On January 15, 2020, the Jacksonville Waterways Commission voted 8-1 to oppose this proposed legislation and focus efforts on enforcement of current regulations. Please respect their decision.

Regards,
 
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Here is AGLCA’s most recent communique on efforts in Florida and Georgia.



Florida Anchoring Bill Gets Through First Committee

Thanks to all of you who took the time to call and write the Senators on the Environmental and Natural Resources Committee. The bill (SB 606) passed the Committee by a vote of 3-2. This is a strong showing because prior to our grass-roots campaign, there was little opposition.

For those who are unfamiliar, SB 606 would prohibit overnight anchoring in the Ortega and Cedar Rivers, including an amendment to also prohibit overnight anchoring in the Citrus County portion of Kings Bay and Crystal River.

The Senate bill still has two more hearings before committees, and the companion House bill has to pass three hearings before committees as well. If the bills survive the committee hearings, they'll come to a vote before each full chamber.

We will let you know which committees are up next. We will need more phone calls and emails at that time. We also need boaters who can attend hearings in Tallahassee, sometimes on short notice. If you are willing and able to appear in person, please let Kim Russo know so she can put you on the "short list" for hearing notifications.

We have made progress! Please keep reading the forum for updates.

Anchoring Restrictions in Georgia ~ New Regulations

The rules to implement Georgia's new anchoring law took effect on January 1st and they are believed to be the most restrictive in the nation.

When Georgia's new law was passed in 2019, boaters were outraged at the idea that a permit would be required to anchor for even one night in the state. That part of the law was not implemented after the boating community's views were made known through the comment process.

However, the law authorized DNR to establish where overnight anchoring may occur. On December 30, DNR Commissioner Mark Williams signed an Administrative Order restricting overnight anchoring within 1,000 feet of any structure, such as public and private docks, wharfs, bridges, piers and pilings, except in areas near marinas. Commissioner Williams also has created “marina zones,” which allow boaters to anchor as close as 300 feet to marinas or facilities that provide fuel, dinghy access, provisions, vessel maintenance or other services, regardless of whether other structures exist nearby. Boaters may anchor overnight within these marina zones. It should be noted that the 1,000-foot exclusion zone applies to the vessel’s swing circle.

Here is a link to DNR's announcement about the law: https://coastalgadnr.org/new-coastal-boating-laws-take-effect-georgia

An interactive map showing the restricted areas can be found here: https://coastalgadnr.org/Liveaboards

Below is an op-ed written by one of our coalition partners, Jack White. Jack is a former Georgia state legislator and we think his explanation/summation of what has happened is spot on. Following Jack's op-ed is Kim Russo's take on the topic.

Betrayal of the public trust

Remember when you were in school and a few kids did something wrong and the whole class got punished? If so, then welcome to legislation—Georgia style! Georgia is now home to the most restrictive boater legislation in the nation. This past week the Coastal Resources Division (CRD) of the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) posted the announcement of the implementation of HB201 on their website. You may recall this is the bill I warned Liberty and Bryan County residents about last summer. A hodgepodge of disjointed topics, the bill included anchoring permits, logs of pump-outs, fees and the establishment of anchorage areas. Did you catch that folks? Not just authorization to tell you where you CAN’T anchor but where you CAN anchor. The announcement this week (via Administrative Order from DNR Commissioner Mark Williams) graciously informs the public that “The Commissioner hereby ORDERS that anchorage areas for the purpose of overnight anchoring are established throughout all the estuarine areas the state…”. In other words, a right we have enjoyed for centuries in waters most boaters and boating organizations believe to be federally controlled (see the commerce clause of the US Constitution) has been granted to us by the DNR. This should be challenged in a court of law.

If you go onto the DNR website they will tell you “HB201 is a new law that mainly affects waste discharge from vessels with marine sanitation devices (MSDs) and overnight anchoring in coastal waters”. Folks, this is disingenuous at best. HB201 was NEVER about a concern over the cleanliness of Georgia’s waters. It was about getting rid of a couple of nuisance boats in the coastal Georgia area to make a couple of powerful people happy. It was their scenery that was getting polluted—not the water. To fix their problem, Representative Don Hogan (Brunswick, Ga) with the help of others crafted HB201 at the urging of DNR. Why? Because DNR needed a way to make these 2 complaints go away and establishing setbacks under the guise of clean water was deemed the answer. The hen has now come to roost in the form of this new DNR Administrative Order which outlines the following:

ONE. It restricts overnight anchoring within 1,000 feet (that’s over 3 football fields) of any structure, such as public and private docks, wharfs, bridges, piers and pilings, except in areas near marinas. This 1,000’ offset needlessly eliminates anchorages all over the state. It will affect numerous boaters many of which transit Georgia waters as part of the annual migration along the Intracoastal Waterway (ICW) that brings in millions of dollars to Georgia businesses. Additionally, an unintended consequence of this ill-conceived legislation is that it gives private landowners jurisdiction over public waters free of charge with no need for a bottom lease from the state. Essentially waterfront owners now control thousands of acres of public water at no cost. I seriously question the legality of this action and challenge any attorney reading this to take action.

TWO. Commissioner Mark Williams and the DNR have created an animal known as Marina Zones, which wasn’t even in HB201. These will allow boaters to anchor as close as 300 feet to marinas or facilities that provide fuel, dinghy access, provisions, vessel maintenance or other services, regardless of whether other structures exist nearby. This of course begs the question, if we can anchor 300’ from a marina, where there are numerous comings and goings, why are we prohibited from anchoring 300’ from any other structure where there may be no or very limited activity? It makes zero sense but then it doesn’t have to as long as it makes the two waterfront owners happy. It would seem the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many.

Many boating groups to include the National Marine Manufacturers Association (NMMA), Boat US, Seven Seas Cruising Association (SSCA), Marine Trawler Owners Association (MTOA), American Great Loopers Cruising Association (AGLCA), and the Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway Association (AIWA) were never consulted before the legislation was passed. Most importantly, the general boating public was unaware of the bill until it had already passed. A public hearing occurred on June 17 in Brunswick where we voiced our concerns and were assured no rules would be implemented until they were vetted with the boating public. Afterwards, at a July 31st Stakeholders’ Meeting, which I and several boating representatives attended, we collectively recommended 150’ setbacks from marinas and private structures. Personnel at DNR were informed that a 1,000’ setback was far too large yet that has now been implemented. So much for transparency and open dialogue with the public.

The General Assembly didn’t just take away the freedoms of Georgians, they also took away the freedoms of every American transiting our waters from other states. DNR never had any intention of engaging any of the end users--Georgia boaters and visiting boaters to the coastline of Georgia. Actions speak much louder than words.

So, what can we do? I invite the citizens of coastal Georgia to join me in writing and calling both the Governor’s office as well as the Commissioner of DNR.

Governor Brian Kemp
206 Washington Street
Suite 203, State Capitol
Atlanta, GA 30334
Phone Number:
404-656-2846

Toll Free:
1-800-436-7442

Contact via web form: https://gov.georgia.gov/contact-us/constituent-services

Commissioner Mark Williams
2 Martin Luther King, Jr. Drive, SE
Suite 1252 – East Tower
Atlanta, GA 30334
Phone number:
404-656-3505

Contact via web form: https://gadnr.org/sendemail

Maps of restricted anchorage areas by county can be found here:
https://coastalgadnr.org/Liveaboards

//Signed//
Jack White
Boater, Liberty County resident & former Ga State Representative, House District 3

As Jack eloquently shared, stakeholders (including AGLCA) were invited by DNR to a meeting because they said they wanted our feedback as they crafted the implementation rules associated with HB201. It was my understanding leaving that meeting, and from subsequent phone contact, that we'd be kept informed of progress and given the chance to preview the new rules before implementation to provide comment. We were blindsided by the order two days before it took effect.

Our coalition has been making calls and gathering information, and has not found a group that suggested 1,000-feet as a setback. There seems to be no explanation as to how that distance was selected. It appears that even marinas, who some think have the most to gain when boats cannot anchor overnight, appear to have suggested a setback far less than 1,000-feet. And even Florida, where there are constant challenges to the right to anchor, has setbacks of only 150-feet.

There is some good news. First, the wheels are in motion for a potential legislative change that we hope will undo the problems inherent in HB201. We will provide more details on this as soon as we are able. Second, groups much bigger than ours, with a lot more clout, are just as outraged as we are. We hope to make more details about their efforts available soon as well.

In the meantime, Jack's suggestion of letter-writing to Commission Williams and Governor Kemp (see address information above) is our next course of action. Please take the time to write. Remember to be respectful, specific, and concise about how this administrative order will affect you. For your convenience, the order is available here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/ClubExpres...ge.pdf&Signature=JbzOFca/2VSKlUO89LoINULZfl8=
 
They just don’t listen!

Thanks angus99 for the posting above. I live in Georgia and participated in the meetings about HB201 that was passed and is now in effect for Georgia. My state representative, Don Hogan authored the bill at the request of an ex judge in Brunswick that had a so called derelict boat behind her office in Brunswick.
The disguised it as a clean water bill and it passed almost unopposed through the legislature. Hogan did admit at a public meeting that he “should have involved boaters” initially. Duh!.
Anyway, we had meetings, letter writing campaigns and all the big national groups speaking against the bill. The DNR reps said we hear you loud and clear!
When all was said and done the Georgia DNR basically ignored all input and the appointed commissioner imposed his own draconian rules against anchoring.
We now have 1000 foot setbacks from man made structures which severely restricts some of our best anchorages.
Get involved and be polite but vocal. Hopefully your government won’t lie to you like ours did. It’s a fact that money talks in situations like this and that the homeowners are listened to much more than us lowly boaters.
Good luck in Florida but don’t expect to win because you are right.
Right has nothing to do with it and Fair is where they show pigs and cows.
 
Good job folks but you need to stay on top of future legislation that could be harmful. I suspect you will see similar bills on a fairly consistent basis most likely filed by the same legislator(s) who filed this one and was probably the 1 no vote.

Most legislators have little time to read the detail every bill that they are voting on and look at the impact from many angles. They typically leave it to staff and have the bill sponsors give a summary.

My suggestion as someone who has done state and local lobbying for awhile is to introduce yourself to the bill sponsor and offer to work with them to find a solution that works for everyone. At the same time build up some allies who will support you. Start by sending thank you notes/emails to the 8 individuals who voted in your favor.

Good luck and good job.
 
I recently anchored in the Ortega River overnight, because by the time I got there, it was too dark to safely go into my reserved slip. My vessel was egged while I slept.. I was not near any houses, and was out of the channel. I don't know who did it, but they had to have come by boat. Ii went in to the marina the next day.
 
I recently anchored in the Ortega River overnight, because by the time I got there, it was too dark to safely go into my reserved slip. My vessel was egged while I slept.. I was not near any houses, and was out of the channel. I don't know who did it, but they had to have come by boat. Ii went in to the marina the next day.

Being serious here. Would you be willing to formally write that up and have it notarized?
 
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