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rhoulio

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Hello! In my haste to post my first question, I now see I skipped the intro referred to, so Hi from BC.
I’m looking to buy a GB, Island Gypsy or ? Fiberglass Hull, . Really the GB 32 is what I want. I suspect I will become more active on this site once I narrow it down and buy one.
 
Welcome aboard from up coast a bit :thumb:
 
Welcome! Lots of fellow PNW trawler fans here!
 
Pssssst...

PNW = Washington State

South coast, central coast & north coast = BC

(Pet peeve )


I share your pet peeve but it is a losing cause, even in the lower mainland and Van Isle, the term is being used more and more. I've always got a kick out of the south coast being above the northwest. And as you can imagine, numerous Americans have educated me as to why it is called the Pacific Northwest. And I always say, Alaska is the Pacific Northwest!

But I chase after windmills.

I am a Grand Banks lover but instead of settling on one or two brands, why not haunt all the used boat places on Facebook Marketplace, and Craig's list. There are more than two girls you can marry in the world, check out what's out there.

How about a 34 Tollycraft, for example:

https://victoria.craigslist.org/bod/d/west-vancouver-34-tollycraft-sedan-with/7048664845.html

This might be out of your price range and it is wood though beautiful, I have a special place in my heart for wooden boats, as mine is but with a fibreglass covering over the wood hull (original build). This is a Bill Garden designed wooden trawler that has extensive reno's and is 46 feet.

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/boa/d/highlands-remodelled-interior-1967-bill/7051266959.html

This boat needs a little TLC but the price is decent, CHB Sedan Trawler 34 for $30,000, throw another $30,000 in and you will probably have a great boat:

https://nanaimo.craigslist.org/boa/d/parksville-chb-sedan-trawler/7027256157.html
 
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Actually, Alaska is in the Northeast Pacific :D

Don't get me going about Manitoba being in western Canada :eek:
 
Pssssst...

PNW = Washington State

South coast, central coast & north coast = BC

(Pet peeve :D )

Blame the term PNW on the dastardly English mappers under Cook and Vancouver. Vitus Bering, a good Dane as I recall, and the Russians even got confused and referenced the PNW as they laid claim to present day Oregon. Then the centuries old term Cascadia confuses things even more.

God forbid, Wikpedia now says BC is part of the PNW. :eek:
 
Welcome to TF, and yes, we'll welcome you even if you don't live in the PNW.
 
So, locals have got it wrong?

I agree as far as Cascadia goes, but doubt someone in Williams Lake BC thinks of themselves as being from the PNW :D

When I lived in Williams Lake we called it the Central Interior. When boating in the ocean waters we called it the salt chuck. During the winter we called it the frozen north. I worked in the bush. In the summer we called it the Cariboo. It really got confusing as to where I was at times.

Back then we didn't have GPS or smart phones so road signs and George Vancouver's charts were important. We even used a compass. Charts never said South Coast, Central Coast or North Coast. They still don't.
 
I prefer the term Salish sea. That added confusion to my insurance agent that kept wanting to use Puget sound for that area of coverage.
 
So I just looked up Salish Sea on Wiki, just out of curiosity, where do you think it northern boundary ends. When I talk about "our" area, I get tired of typing, Washington, coastal BC and Alaska Panhandle.
 
From what I understand (and I'm no geographer) the Salish Sea includes Puget Sound, the Strait of Juan de Fuca, San Juan Islands, Gulf Islands and the Strait of Georgia. I don't think it covers any area north of there including the Alaska Panhandle. Here is the Wiki link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salish_Sea

Not sure why it doesn't include all the protected areas behind Vancouver Island.
 
So I just looked up Salish Sea on Wiki, just out of curiosity, where do you think it northern boundary ends. When I talk about "our" area, I get tired of typing, Washington, coastal BC and Alaska Panhandle.

The name is derived from the Coast Salish First Nations people who are indigenous to the area: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast_Salish
 
The Salish sea includes up to and including the northern, eastern and western edges of Desolation Sound. At least that is what I read when the name was first Applied.
Note it is an overall name of the whole area, not a name change for any of the individual waterways so Georgia Strait, Juan de Fuca Strait, Rosario Strait and so on remain as they were named before Salish Sea was applied.

https://www.canadiangeographic.ca/article/salish-sea-change
 
(our poor OP has probably turned tail and ran the other way!)

He wants to buy and Grand Banks or something and cruise these waters with us, whatever they're called!:blush:

Thank goodness rsn started pointing him at something! He should be pouring over that dratted useless yachtworld search rather than worrying about how badly Americans are taught their country is in the middle of all the maps they're shown!

(And Alaska is always down in the lower left of the map, really small, next to Hawaii and Mexico, to save space, isn't it?!):hide:
 
Hello! In my haste to post my first question, I now see I skipped the intro referred to, so Hi from BC.
I’m looking to buy a GB, Island Gypsy or ? Fiberglass Hull, . Really the GB 32 is what I want. I suspect I will become more active on this site once I narrow it down and buy one.

Geographic name jousting aside, some boat brand jousting is in order. No matter what your budget, I suggest you look at some more recent builds for comparison purposes such as the - Nordic Tug 32/34 or - American Tug 34 or - Ranger Tug 30.

Have you thought about an OB powered Al vessel? There are some really nice BC made ones. Good hunting!
 
Geographic name jousting aside, some boat brand jousting is in order. No matter what your budget, I suggest you look at some more recent builds for comparison purposes such as the - Nordic Tug 32/34 or - American Tug 34 or - Ranger Tug 30.

Have you thought about an OB powered Al vessel? There are some really nice BC made ones. Good hunting!
rhoulio
I agree with Sunchaser!


Being as the OP gave us little in the way of his boating history and his "boat shopping" history (maybe what I will say he has already done), I will say the following:
Take some time to investigate many boats (brands, models, types). Write lists such as must haves, nice to have, and absolutely don't want, (talking about boat features here) starting from a clear vision as to how you plan on using the boat. Don't just focus on asthetics, look carefully at functionality, access for and ease of maintenance, and also look for a boat that the current owner has "loved".
Grand Banks are great looking, well respected boats. But for me (personally), I would not want the "extra" maintenance (when compared to some other brands) of the beautiful exterior woodwork, the screwed down teak decks, etc. Many others love that kind of work, and to each his/her own! :D
Good luck on your search.
As to the geographic location issue, there are many names used for many different areas, some technically not correct, but they have gained "acceptance" due to being used almost universally (at least locally). Examples were given earlier like the Cariboo, Central Interior, or here the PNW, South Coast of BC, etc.

Frankly to me, the term Pacific Northwest (although technically probably really only Washington State), has come to be accepted by a lot of people to mean the "Pacific Northwest" area of the North American continent, and encompasses a very large geographic area. :whistling: In the circles I move in, the term PNW is used (and accepted) far more often than the south coast of BC (which other than the weather forecasts, I hardly ever hear).
 
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My one recommendation, don't get an outboard boat. In our area, Washington, BC and Alaska, dinghies are away of life, an almost must have. If you get a boat large enough you can have a crane and lift it to the deckhead but please note, many don't like this system as lifting a heavy dinghy & motor & stuff up in a heavy wind, ain't do fun and ditto a choppy sea. Check out the Seawise system for a good alternative and for it you need a swim deck. Outboards make more sense where people stay at marinas more and gunghole less.
 
Phractal and others - bing or google yachtworld Australia. That site still uses the “old” search interface and results in much more accurate results and has more flexibility to set up your search.
 
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