menzies
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Why?
Mega yacht dumping trash in the Exumas, caught on camera
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LN-RTP
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Noise pollution, wake, etc.
Woodland Hills
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Does anybody have access to any of the AIS tracking sites? I wonder where they are?
Is it legal for a vessel under charter to turn the AIS off if they are so equipped?
Is it legal for a vessel under charter to turn the AIS off if they are so equipped?
Woodland Hills
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I’m surprised that something so dinky would be in the same class as the new 300 foot plus yachts: that’s what I think of when I hear “megayacht”, not something under 30 meters.
menzies
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Might as well ban outboards and big boats then or make the whole country a no wake zone.
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This appears to be the boat in question: https://www.boatbookings.com/yacht_search/yacht_photos.php?pid=29789
On a boat that size you’d think they could find room for a few bags of trash for a few days.
On a boat that size you’d think they could find room for a few bags of trash for a few days.
Woodland Hills
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I’ve been calling around and a broker who shall remain nameless told me that Top Gun is on the MLS, so lots of companies will be able to book them. But he claims the listing agency is XXXXXXX Charters in Miami.
I called and left a message asking if they were aware of what was going on, but I haven’t heard back from them. They screen their calls so no direct contact.
Just got off the phone with them and they are horrified! Very concerned about this and they seem to be true lovers of the Bahamas as well. The broker has not yet been able to contact Top Gun to hear their side of the story, but he promises to get to the bottom of this and I believe him. From the tone of his voice this was a very big deal to them and not simply how it might affect his business, but that the whole thing was extremely offensive to them.
I called and left a message asking if they were aware of what was going on, but I haven’t heard back from them. They screen their calls so no direct contact.
Just got off the phone with them and they are horrified! Very concerned about this and they seem to be true lovers of the Bahamas as well. The broker has not yet been able to contact Top Gun to hear their side of the story, but he promises to get to the bottom of this and I believe him. From the tone of his voice this was a very big deal to them and not simply how it might affect his business, but that the whole thing was extremely offensive to them.
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angus99
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Well done.
Mrwesson
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I'm sure it's just an off the collar remark and not what you really feel because that's crazy.
Could it be that this guy called someone to pick up his trash and they dumped it?
Probably not the case but it's possible.
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That would be great..
In the meantime there is an Idle only for dingies in the park and I believe jetskies are banned, but not sure.
Woodland Hills
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Cruising and Sailing forum reports that Bahamas is pressing charges against the Captain and the vessel.
M/Y Top Gun dumps garbage in the Exuma Park, caught on camera - Page 4 - Cruisers & Sailing Forums
Post #54 is the relevant entry.
M/Y Top Gun dumps garbage in the Exuma Park, caught on camera - Page 4 - Cruisers & Sailing Forums
Post #54 is the relevant entry.
menzies
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That would be great..
In the meantime there is an Idle only for dingies in the park and I believe jetskies are banned, but not sure.
Actually that is not true. You pass through the park both inside (Tongue) and outside (Exuma Sound) at cruise speeds with no speed limits.
Woodland Hills
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If the compactor was inoperative that would explain why they were dumping their trash on shore. It would not excuse it, but would be an explanation.
You'd be amazed how few boats that size have trash compactors, especially older boats.
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Did not say speed limit for boats, but idle for dink’s in the Park.
(This is by memory only, it has been a few years since I was there, will look up the rules and report back)
Found a few rules:
All vessels must operate at idle speed in all mooring field and anchorages.
• Jet skies are required to stay at least 300 yards off any moored or anchored vessel
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Geeesh, even my boat has a trash compactor, and it ain't close to a superyacht size.
menzies
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You
I don't think you are aware of the park boundries. There are plenty of areas for dinghys and jet skies to go full throttle within the park. "Mooring fields and anchorages" make up a very small percentage of the park.
I don't think you are aware of the park boundries. There are plenty of areas for dinghys and jet skies to go full throttle within the park. "Mooring fields and anchorages" make up a very small percentage of the park.
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I would be happy if jet skiiers would just comply with this one.
(Although we though we did enjoy watching one ram the transom of the super yacht that deployed it one day at Big Majors
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78puget-trawler
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So by that logic I guess the garbage is still on the beach right? No, never been there. But the main point remains, people do stupid stuff all the time everywhere you go, no different there is it? People still do stupid stuff.
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Nice job, mate!
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It is not a “logic”, but the rules.
I know the boundaries. Looked up and Posted the rules ‘cause I was unsure if I remembered them correctly.
Still wish jetskies was banned from the park, no such luck.
menzies
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I can guarantee you that the following coordinates are examples well within the park and that all vessels can move at whatever speed they want here.
N24.26.069 W76.39.488
N24.26.013 W76.39.509
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menzies
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no idea why you want to argue the point?
For the record I was pointing out that the following statement was false and anyone transiting the area need not slow to idle. You then decided to argue the point I was making.
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• Jet skies are required to stay at least 300 yards off any moored or anchored vessel
interesting rule. Basically, you would have to launch your jet ski while either adrift or underway. :lol:
interesting rule. Basically, you would have to launch your jet ski while either adrift or underway. :lol:
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Some of this issue goes back to the provision of inshore facilities for disposal. The authorities are better able to complain or prosecute if they do their bit to provide for onshore disposal. Similar to setting an NDZ without providing pumpout facilities.
In our cruising grounds there used be a garbage barge provided in a popular bay and private mooring field. It was removed, some boaters messed up the facility, but that might have been due to insufficient collection & clearing by National Parks. Whatever happened, it`s not there anymore, and it`s missed.
In our cruising grounds there used be a garbage barge provided in a popular bay and private mooring field. It was removed, some boaters messed up the facility, but that might have been due to insufficient collection & clearing by National Parks. Whatever happened, it`s not there anymore, and it`s missed.
menzies
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Well now, we've going going there regularly since 2002 and we have never had an issue finding where to dispose of our trash. Yes we pay, but have found facilities at every marina or public dock.
