twistedtree
Guru
A number have argued that OTDE is an outlet for unruly members. I argue it's a draw for them, and causes them to keep coming back.
Rather than give them an outlet, let's stick to the rules, discipline trouble makers, and show them the door if they can't behave in a manner consistent with TFs stated rules.
TF is nearly always a civilized place. If blocking the creation of new threads on OTDE generates a surge of misbehavior on TF, then I think we will have proven that we have some people who need to change their ways, or go. Let's deal with that problem, if it exists, and not hide sweep in under the rug in OTDE.
And just to reiterate, the proposal is NOT to eliminate OTDE. I do think there is value in having a place to move discussions that start to get out of hand, and let people still continue the debate. But the creation of a new thread on OPTDE is by definition counter to the behavior rules and values of TF, and the poster knows it. Otherwise they wouldn't have places it there. So exactly why do we allow these explicit and conscious violations of the rules? Why do we accept this behavior from our members for even one second?
Rather than give them an outlet, let's stick to the rules, discipline trouble makers, and show them the door if they can't behave in a manner consistent with TFs stated rules.
TF is nearly always a civilized place. If blocking the creation of new threads on OTDE generates a surge of misbehavior on TF, then I think we will have proven that we have some people who need to change their ways, or go. Let's deal with that problem, if it exists, and not hide sweep in under the rug in OTDE.
And just to reiterate, the proposal is NOT to eliminate OTDE. I do think there is value in having a place to move discussions that start to get out of hand, and let people still continue the debate. But the creation of a new thread on OPTDE is by definition counter to the behavior rules and values of TF, and the poster knows it. Otherwise they wouldn't have places it there. So exactly why do we allow these explicit and conscious violations of the rules? Why do we accept this behavior from our members for even one second?