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Donna

Donna

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A big project, for me, going on! I Purchased my boat with some water damage around the windows in the aft cabin. That has since been fixed. So today I rip out the teak. I do not plan to replace it would take. I am going to use live I Purchased my boat with some water damage around the windows in the aft cabin. That has since been fixed. So today I rip out the teak. I do not plan to replace it would take. I am going to use Luan and a removable wallpaper over it. That’s just in case I change my mind down the road. The aft cabin is very dark although it has many windows. Need to brighten it up a little bit and add some femininity. Many of you will disagree with this decision, but I’m hoping I will love it in the end. Totally making it my own, but what a mess!
 

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That is the best before picture I have. I’ll keep you updated on the progress.
 
Best of luck with your project. Are you planing on finishing the Luan before you wallpaper over it?

Ted
 
O C Diver said:
Best of luck with your project. Are you planing on finishing the Luan before you wallpaper over it?

Ted
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No, I’ll be using a removable wallpaper which I have had great success with before.
 
I wish I was closer .I would go dumpster diving. I could do some patch work with the scrap.
 
Greetings,
Ms. D. I suspect what Mr. OC may be alluding to when asking about finishing the Luan is the sealing aspect of the finsish. Meaning sealed Luan will be less likely to delaminate in the potential damp atmosphere aboard. A couple of coats of pretty well anything should do the trick particularly, the raw edges. Just a WAG on my part though...
 
Thanks RTF! I’ll consider it.
 
timb said:
I wish I was closer .I would go dumpster diving. I could do some patch work with the scrap.
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I am not being careful with the rip out. I don’t think there will be anything usable. Most if not all of the back wall will remain.
 
RT Firefly said:
Greetings,
Ms. D. I suspect what Mr. OC may be alluding to when asking about finishing the Luan is the sealing aspect of the finsish. Meaning sealed Luan will be less likely to delaminate in the potential damp atmosphere aboard. A couple of coats of pretty well anything should do the trick particularly, the raw edges. Just a WAG on my part though...
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A slick, smooth surface will probably also provide better adhesion for the paper.
 
I’m undertaking this on a mt44. Ripped out the rotted paneling (and luan the former owner placed over the rotted paneling) and replaced ply in the cabin sides. I still have one more wall to do before I reinstall luan and then the windows. All the built in furniture had to be ripped out for access.

If there are any brows over your windows make sure they have been rebedded or removed and the holes sealed. They were the primary leak on my boat that caused the windows to leak which caused the built ins to rot...

I’m still undecided on the finish for the walls. I’ve toyed with white panels from a box lumber yard, fabric, traditional hull-liner, paint. Etc. will procrastinate on deciding until April or May while I paint a car.

My partial demo attached.

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Donna said:
A big project, for me, going on! I Purchased my boat with some water damage around the windows in the aft cabin. That has since been fixed. So today I rip out the teak. I do not plan to replace it would take. I am going to use live I Purchased my boat with some water damage around the windows in the aft cabin. That has since been fixed. So today I rip out the teak. I do not plan to replace it would take. I am going to use Luan and a removable wallpaper over it. That’s just in case I change my mind down the road. The aft cabin is very dark although it has many windows. Need to brighten it up a little bit and add some femininity. Many of you will disagree with this decision, but I’m hoping I will love it in the end. Totally making it my own, but what a mess!
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By the way, on a previous boat, I replaced all of the interior facing with inexpensive 1/8" luan paneling that was very close to a teak/cherry color. I bought it at a local lumber place where I could select colors to match.

I first coated it with epoxy front, back and more importantly edges, for moisture protection. By the time I did that, and then put a coat or two of satin varnish on, it was a really nice color - close match to the teak trim pieces elsewhere.
 

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Wow! Your "before" picture looks like an "after" picture to me! It looks nice but I'm sure when it's done & everything is lighter ,that will look good too & you'll be happy.
 
Luan mahogany tends to pick up everything in the pores and should be sealed first or you'll never get the adhesive off the wood if you want to remove it later.

If it were me, I'd lay the sheets on a saw horse and varnish both sides and then cut them up as needed. It's quick to varnish a flat sheet out in the open compared to once it is mounted and wants to drip / run.
 
stubones99 said:
Luan mahogany tends to pick up everything in the pores and should be sealed first or you'll never get the adhesive off the wood if you want to remove it later.

If it were me, I'd lay the sheets on a saw horse and varnish both sides and then cut them up as needed. It's quick to varnish a flat sheet out in the open compared to once it is mounted and wants to drip / run.
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Yep.
That's what I did above^
 
Wifey B: :dance: I love that you're going to brighten and lighten and make it yours. Get rid of the "looks like a lawyer's office" and add a "looks like a hot and fun woman". I've never understood why so many boats are so formal and dark. Yet, when people decorate waterfront homes they often go for beachy colors and looks and palm trees and blue water colors, making them tropical paradises. So, why not let the inside of a boat reflect a bit more what's outside it. :D
 
RT Firefly said:
Greetings,
Ms. D. I suspect what Mr. OC may be alluding to when asking about finishing the Luan is the sealing aspect of the finsish. Meaning sealed Luan will be less likely to delaminate in the potential damp atmosphere aboard. A couple of coats of pretty well anything should do the trick particularly, the raw edges. Just a WAG on my part though...
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Yes, sealing it to make it easier for wallpaper glue removal and prevent delamination potential.

Ted
 
Brightened up and replaced some damaged teak ply around my aft cabin windows. All leaks were addressed and any suspect wood replaced and coated with epoxy. Than I got some sapelle plywood from Lowes and contacted white matte formica on the face- treated the back and all edges with epoxy. Glued the new panel to the subframing with pl premium construction adhesive. Replaced the trim and it made a huge difference. Light bright clean and dry!!
 
And so the fun begins.
 

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The paper I’m using is not a typical paper. It adheres to anything and comes of clean on everything. It is fairly new within the past few years. I used it in my galley and am quite pleased. I had to remove a piece for a thermostat installation and put a new piece up. It worked perfectly.
 
I’m having an extremely hard time finding 3/8” marine grade ply. Will exterior ply do the job?
 
Donna said:
I’m having an extremely hard time finding 3/8” marine grade ply. Will exterior ply do the job?
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My understanding is that marine grade plywood is "marine grade" because it has [STRIKE]no[/STRIKE] fewer voids in between the layers of plywood internally. It may also have moisture-resistant properties, but that is not the "lead story", so to speak.

Few or no voids in wood is very important to high-stress applications like main hulls, etc. in boats. For what I think your application is, this super-strength is not necessary and will add $$ to your project for no real reason. If going in to a dry location, I think any decent plywood would work. If wet or high-moisture areas, coat with epoxy or suitable waterproofing first and don't penetrate (screws, etc.) without sealing.
 
Donna said:
I’m having an extremely hard time finding 3/8” marine grade ply. Will exterior ply do the job?
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Just think the original was Chinese plywood.... Marine grade ply is really only needed where strength is an issue or underwater applications where voids would absorb water and rot. Exterior ply will work. as will interior grades for areas not subject to getting wet. Avoid pressure treated unless kiln dried or you have months for it to reach moisture equilibrium.
 
Excellent! Thank you both! Lowe’s here I come. I have all the sealers and such in my new dock box already!
 
Donna - doing the same with my boat. Can you be more specific about the wall covering you're using? Sounds worthy of consideration for my project.
 
Greetings,
Ms. D. Used to be that only exterior grade ply had waterproof glue. The industry may have changed whereby all ply has WP glue. I'm pretty sure Luan does not have WP glue, hence the suggestion that it be well sealed particularly the edges. I think the "void" comments are correct wrt. marine ply.
 
Wallpaper is grand today , made for kitchens and bath , getting wet is no problem.

But wall coverings are advancing too, a nice light color could make a great gal cave.

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Donna said:
Many of you will disagree with this decision, but I’m hoping I will love it in the end. Totally making it my own, but what a mess!
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Who cares what other people would do. We have a saying in our house/boat; "When you pay the bills, you get an opinion".
 
Shrew said:
Who cares what other people would do. We have a saying in our house/boat; "When you pay the bills, you get an opinion".
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The only caveat there is resale. When I am making changes for me, I think about resale and whether it is too "narrow" or not, and if so, is there a way to make the change so that it is easily put it back to something more "general" if that day should come.

If resale is not in your long range future (it always is, IMHO), it doesn't matter.
 
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