Fotoman
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Right spacing?
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skipperdude
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That is a tough one because what if you space them at 6 inches and the grommet winds up being right at a stanchion or support.
*Do you plan on doing them at home or on site?
If on site I would start with the corners where you know you will need them. Then measure the distance. *go**1/2 *then 1/2 on that half then again and so on till you get down to a comfortable space. One that looks good to you.
*At least that way they will be evenly spaced.
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We have the same canvas on our boat, and instead of grommets, a pocket is sewn top and bottom, a piece of aluminum flat bar inserted, and then it's all riveted to the railing.* Never flaps, and no worries about spacing..............Arctic Traveller
We have these on our GB. Best bet, I think, is to hold your shaped fabric in place around your flying bridge railing. Then you can determine the best even spacing that will not conflict with the railing stanchions. Ours are held along the front, top, and rear sides by grommets and line. The bottoms snap to stainless snaps screwed into the rail stanchions. They were on the boat when we bought it and have stood up to winter storm gusts of 80 mph with no problem.
I'm assuming you (or whoever is going to sew them up) is going to be sewing a hem around all four sides. Make sure whoever does it uses Tenara thread. It's the best thread for outdoor purposes on the planet, and anything less is not worth using. My wife uses Tenara for all the new canvas or canvas repairs she makes for our boat. The flying bridge canvas was on the boat when we bought it. We've had the boat 12-plus years and I have no idea how long they'd been on the boat before we liberated it from San Francisco Bay. But my wife has re-sewn all the hems using Tenara and washes and treats it with whatever the canvas shop where she buys her Sunbrella told her to wash and treat it with. I'm amazed how well they--- and all the canvas on the boat--- have held up.
I'm assuming you (or whoever is going to sew them up) is going to be sewing a hem around all four sides. Make sure whoever does it uses Tenara thread. It's the best thread for outdoor purposes on the planet, and anything less is not worth using. My wife uses Tenara for all the new canvas or canvas repairs she makes for our boat. The flying bridge canvas was on the boat when we bought it. We've had the boat 12-plus years and I have no idea how long they'd been on the boat before we liberated it from San Francisco Bay. But my wife has re-sewn all the hems using Tenara and washes and treats it with whatever the canvas shop where she buys her Sunbrella told her to wash and treat it with. I'm amazed how well they--- and all the canvas on the boat--- have held up.
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Thanks guys. I'll go to the boat and measure the stanchions to be sure.
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Our boat came with the skirting which I removed fairly quickly as it significantly impeded visibility from the upper helm during docking manoevers*and other close in work.*These skirts are on a lot of boats so obviously have value, so my question is what are the benefits? I can see some wind protection and that's about it.
Well, except for my wife's protest once the skirt was removed that she no longer felt comfortable getting a really good tan...
Well, except for my wife's protest once the skirt was removed that she no longer felt comfortable getting a really good tan...
Wind deflection is one.* Also, we have had stuff---* things dropped on the deck*or blown off seats or whatever--- kept from going over the side by the skirts.* Also we feel better about having our dog up*on the flying bridge as he can't accidentally slip off the side.
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Yep, that's one of the reasons I'm putting it up.
The other one being when small children come aboard.
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The way I hear.* There is no good tan unless you like UV damaged skin.
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Thanks for the thoughts folks; hadn't thought about the kids and animals or other stuff flying off for that matter. A skirt might have saved that irreplaceable paper chart that flew off last summer during a rough passage.And SD I agree with your comment re UV although a brief exposure does help the skipper stay alert while underway...
It is just as important to get your quota of vitamin D as it is to avoid UV. Its a delicate balance, best achieved behind an adequate screen.
Nomad Willy
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One can get vitamin D in a pill** ...no need to go get fried.
Kids and dogs on a boat?* Screw that.
That canvas fence amounts to a big sail as in lots of windage. Screw that.
As for eyelet spacing the closer the better. More even look better.
I think the windage is a big issue. When the wind comes over the windward side it drops down and runs accross the deck and hits the other fence. I think the original poster has lots of windage without the fence.
Kids and dogs on a boat?* Screw that.
That canvas fence amounts to a big sail as in lots of windage. Screw that.
As for eyelet spacing the closer the better. More even look better.
I think the windage is a big issue. When the wind comes over the windward side it drops down and runs accross the deck and hits the other fence. I think the original poster has lots of windage without the fence.
Nomad Willy
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Dogs over kids?
Look at this picture and say that.
Awful small people but they sure are having fun.
When they fall overboard we get to practice our MOB function on the chart plotter.
Can a laptop do MOB?
-- Edited by nomadwilly on Thursday 24th of February 2011 01:15:34 AM
Look at this picture and say that.
Awful small people but they sure are having fun.
When they fall overboard we get to practice our MOB function on the chart plotter.
Can a laptop do MOB?
-- Edited by nomadwilly on Thursday 24th of February 2011 01:15:34 AM
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Yeah, but moments after that photo was taken those four kids were going at it tooth and nail over who got to wear the pink life vest and who got the blue one, then they ran around the boat for 45 minutes screaming just for the fun of it, then they had a pillow fight in the main cabin and broke the chart plotter off its base and cracked the screen, then they bitched for half a day about what they had for breakfast and what they were going to have for lunch, and eventually they all went to college and put their parents in the poorhouse after which they each got married to ex-cons who constantly whined about never having enough money and can we borrow some while their wives complained bitterly abut the one day a year (Thanksgiving) they had to make an appearance at their parents' house, and finally, as a last hurrah, had their parents shipped off to a care facility, sold the family house and contested the will.
A dog, on the other hand, spends his whole life trying to make your life better.
-- Edited by Marin on Thursday 24th of February 2011 01:33:49 AM
A rule that should be*changed based on most of the kids I have witnessed on boats.* And it would help with the population problem, too.* FIshing with kids could inspire a whole new industry, let alone all sorts of cool reality TV shows. "Today we're going to demonstrate how to get multiple baits from a teenager," and "Trolling With Toddlers: Secrets the Pros Use."* Works for me.......
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skipperdude
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Dear lord, help me to be the person My dog thinks I am.Marin wrote:
* I'll take a dog on board over a kid on board any day.
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Wow!* I may have to relinquish the title of "Curmudgeon"!
- You kids get out of my yard.
- You kids get out of my yard.
Nomad Willy
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Dogs are stinky animals.
Humans are smarter and cleaner animals.
Humans are smarter and cleaner animals.
Hmmmm.... I've been around a lot of people that smelled a lot worse than any dog we've ever had.**
As to humans being smarter.... compared to what?* I'd say the typical dog has a lot more common sense than the typical human.* But I would definitely agree that humans are smarter than, say, opossums.* Or snails.* Humans are definitely smarter than snails.*
On the other hand,*I've not heard of possums or snails blowing themselves up in order to kill other possums or snails, so perhaps humans aren't smarter than snails after all.
Ah,*but you are assuming that*brain surgeons have to*work on people.* How do we know that there aren't brain surgeon snails*who are absolutely brilliant at working on crows?**I bet there aren't any human brain surgeons who can work on something as tiny as*a crow's brain.**But if snail surgeons can,*well then, who's really the*more skilled surgeon?*
And if a snail can perform successful surgery on a crow's brain and get him back in the air, working on a human brain would be a walk in the park because human brains are so much larger yet have so much less in them.
Steve
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" Dogs are stinky animals."
A dog with a care less owner may get stinky, a dog with a conscientious owner normally will not be.
Having said that cruising with a dog requires a good bit of work, "nature calls", trips ashore, some shed lots of hair, feeding etc. we did it for several years when our dog died, at 13, a few years ago we decided to hold off on another while we are boating. We often miss having one around, alot.
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A dog with a care less owner may get stinky, a dog with a conscientious owner normally will not be.
Having said that cruising with a dog requires a good bit of work, "nature calls", trips ashore, some shed lots of hair, feeding etc. we did it for several years when our dog died, at 13, a few years ago we decided to hold off on another while we are boating. We often miss having one around, alot.
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skipperdude
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What the???
That has got to be the most outragious concept I have ever heard.
I chuckled at least 3 times.
Good one.
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Nomad Willy
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Marin wrote:
"Hmmmm.... I've been around a lot of people that smelled a lot worse than any dog we've ever had."
I tell people** ..especially young people that the most important thing they will ever do is to choose the people they associate with. Looks like you blew that one Marin.
Dude,
I like your new avitar picture. Do it again w more/better light.
Oh** ..we're not going to that anchorage****** ........no place to **** the dog. I think it's crazy to have pets significantly controlling our lives. We have travel problems as we have a cat and there's always the "what will we do w Pansy" thing and it's a pita but we do love our little cat. She looks like C electris avatar cat. Is it true that smarter people tend not to have pets? I wouldn't be surprised if that were true.
"Hmmmm.... I've been around a lot of people that smelled a lot worse than any dog we've ever had."
I tell people** ..especially young people that the most important thing they will ever do is to choose the people they associate with. Looks like you blew that one Marin.
Dude,
I like your new avitar picture. Do it again w more/better light.
Oh** ..we're not going to that anchorage****** ........no place to **** the dog. I think it's crazy to have pets significantly controlling our lives. We have travel problems as we have a cat and there's always the "what will we do w Pansy" thing and it's a pita but we do love our little cat. She looks like C electris avatar cat. Is it true that smarter people tend not to have pets? I wouldn't be surprised if that were true.
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skipperdude
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Sure a pet takes a lot of effort.
I have had a dog since I was a kid growing up in Newfoundland.
The companionship and the total love a dog has for you in my mind is worth every minute of effort.
The toughest part is when they pass.
the current little one will most likely be the last.
I wouldn't want one to out live me.
it is really hard on them if the owner passes first.
SD
I have had a dog since I was a kid growing up in Newfoundland.
The companionship and the total love a dog has for you in my mind is worth every minute of effort.
The toughest part is when they pass.
the current little one will most likely be the last.
I wouldn't want one to out live me.
it is really hard on them if the owner passes first.
SD
