Originally Posted by bobsyiruncle
Yes I have heard the same thing. It still is a problem if you have an extension and a cockpit or alternatively have an clunky opening into the master. I don't like either but must say that "ladder or cockpit" or not, that would be less of a problem than the bridge ladder which you mount underway in weather compared to the swim platform which you don't really go out on unless you are stationary so may not be a deal breaker.
We have a cockpit yachtfisher, and find the arrangement very accommodating. In the salon, there are 4 stairs forward, from the salon down to the galley and forward cabin; 4 stairs down to the aft cabin; and 4 stairs up to the enclosed sundeck. From the sundeck, there are 4 stairs to the flybridge.
From the aft cabin, there are 3 stairs into the cockpit (full sized door). Nothing clunky about it at all.
I liked my 3870, but this layout is another world altogether by comparison.