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what's the cheapest option to move a non-trailerable boat from FL to NJ? is towing an option for the entire long distance?
cheapest option would be under its own power. Towing, not so much.
what's the cheapest option to move a non-trailerable boat from FL to NJ? is towing an option for the entire long distance?
Without more info on the boat...there is no way of knowing what is cheaper or even possible.
I'm not really sure what you're after here. It would prohibitive to have a towing company with a tow boat (or even, a buddy with a boat) tow it on the water.
Your choices are under its own power, or on a truck. If you're running it on the water, your next choice is whether you do it yourself or hire someone.
Distance can be estimated on the chart (or even a map) and compared to known fuel burn values for that or a similar boat. Add 10% or so because it won't be a straight line. Costs for marinas can be largely avoided by anchoring out or having enough crew that you can set up a watch schedule to run all night.
All those choices affect the cost. Running it yourself will probably be cheapest, if you can avoid marinas and restaurants most nights.
I'm still searching for boats and exploring the options.
It would help people to answer more helpfully if you would give more specifics. You've stated:
Suggest you go to www.navionics.com;
- Starting point: Florida
- Ending point: New Jersey
- Boat is not trailerable.
- It would help to know from where in FL to where in NJ
- Type of boat, Make & Model, length, age
- Condition of boat: Does the engine run? Is that why you're exploring towing?
- Time of year: Now? Summer?
In the example above, figuring 7.0 kts, draft of 5.5', fuel burn 4.5 gph (just guessed) the program comes up with:
- select Viewers
- Chart viewers
- Route
- Automatic
- Select start point (example: Jacksonville, FL) I picked the entrance bouy's off of St. Johns River
- Select end point (example: Random point, Cape May Channel)
- Let the program plot it's route
Understand, that the above is assuming no stops, no route diversions, etc. So reasonably speaking, if you are looking at 7 hour days, and figuring in and out to marinas, or small diversions, total travel days are 15, and say 500 gallons total for fuel. Add say a week for weather days, you're up to 22 days. This is a delivery trip, not a "have fun, smell the roses along the way trip" For a smell the roses trip, plan on 30 days minimum. Pure delivery trip, long hours each day, minimum of 10 days. At say $1,000/day (delivery captain, minimal marina stops, fuel, NOTHING for mechanical issues) you are looking at $10k to $15k if all goes well . . . . which it won't.
- 1181 nm
- 3 days, 19 hours (91 hours)
- 410 gallons of fuel
The above assumes the boat is navigable under it's own power. If not, than it would be cheaper to fix it in place (Florida) and then do above. Or find another boat.
It would help people to answer more helpfully if you would give more specifics. You've stated:
Suggest you go to www.navionics.com;
- Starting point: Florida
- Ending point: New Jersey
- Boat is not trailerable.
- It would help to know from where in FL to where in NJ
- Type of boat, Make & Model, length, age
- Condition of boat: Does the engine run? Is that why you're exploring towing?
- Time of year: Now? Summer?
In the example above, figuring 7.0 kts, draft of 5.5', fuel burn 4.5 gph (just guessed) the program comes up with:
- select Viewers
- Chart viewers
- Route
- Automatic
- Select start point (example: Jacksonville, FL) I picked the entrance bouy's off of St. Johns River
- Select end point (example: Random point, Cape May Channel)
- Let the program plot it's route
Understand, that the above is assuming no stops, no route diversions, etc. So reasonably speaking, if you are looking at 7 hour days, and figuring in and out to marinas, or small diversions, total travel days are 15, and say 500 gallons total for fuel. Add say a week for weather days, you're up to 22 days. This is a delivery trip, not a "have fun, smell the roses along the way trip" For a smell the roses trip, plan on 30 days minimum. Pure delivery trip, long hours each day, minimum of 10 days. At say $1,000/day (delivery captain, minimal marina stops, fuel, NOTHING for mechanical issues) you are looking at $10k to $15k if all goes well . . . . which it won't.
- 1181 nm
- 3 days, 19 hours (91 hours)
- 410 gallons of fuel
The above assumes the boat is navigable under it's own power. If not, than it would be cheaper to fix it in place (Florida) and then do above. Or find another boat.
I may have missed some setting. my search shows 9D14h - this is much longer than your result, 1612km, and a bit more fuel required.
what is confusing is the route is not found. probably it has to be set manual mode.
Doubt it. Guessing a reputable professional delivery skipper and crew are in the range of $500/day plus expenses. Would guess this to be at least a 2-3 week trip, so $7k min for delivery fees. In my experience, fees were around half the overall cost.West coast? + $10,000
how to select an area for anchoring safely and free? are you saying a marina usually provides an area for mooring with no cost?
and is this kind of buoy a necessary condition for such a spot?
Doubt it. Guessing a reputable professional delivery skipper and crew are in the range of $500/day plus expenses. Would guess this to be at least a 2-3 week trip, so $7k min for delivery fees. In my experience, fees were around half the overall cost.
If you breeze through OPs previous posts, he seems to be trying to figure out how to find something on a very tight budget that he can liveaboard in the NYC area. Being from another high cost area (San Francisco), this has been a very common idea for decades. Indeed, it's much of the reason I got into powerboats. Job offer in SF, couldn't afford to live there, brilliant idea "say, why don't we live on a boat?" Uniflite 42 ACMY made more sense than a Hams Christian 34. For me, it stuck. For many others, not so much.
Peter
Towing a boat from florida to NYC.....and not just Florida, but the gulf coast. Just when I thought there were no new topics on TF......
OP - either this is a troll post or you need a reality check. While towing 1000 miles is new, idea of buying a cheap boat is not. Rather than looking at acquisition costs in isolation, better question would be how to accurately budget and minimize ownership costs, then plan accordingly. On resale, you recoup most of your purchase cost. Ownership costs are 100% gone. You're worrying about the wrong numbers.
Good luck
Peter
The program's mileage guess may be more correct than it looks. Actual movement from way west in the Florida panhandle would mean first heading to Ft. Myers, crossing Florida through Lake Okeechobee (shortest route), then north up the east coast from approx. Stuart.
What's the background behind your initial question? Are you shopping on a boat in western Florida... that doesn't run?
-Chris
Thanks for the hint on route.
I have the experience of towing a car from Ohio to NYC, so initially thought about towing a boat could also be an economy option on water. now I see it's not. The distance from FL is too long.
Buy something closer to home, plenty of cheap boats around Long Island Sound and New Jersey.
I think that free 44' Marine Trader is on Long Island.