Nancy and Rick
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- Oct 10, 2021
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- Vessel Name
- Paradigm Lost
- Vessel Make
- Helmsman 38e
Here is one of the pictures I received of the hull and deck.
It's beautiful!
Here is one of the pictures I received of the hull and deck.
I am not sure about the satellite compass that Garmin provides but the SCX20 from Furuno is superior to a normal GPS sensor, because it is receiving information from more satellites, it provides pitch and yaw for information for your AP (reported by analysts and marketed by Furuno) and the radar stabilizes to the chart, so in rougher seas the radar overlay does not move off of the chart it is supporting.
You have a windspeed indicator in the specs. Curious about your thoughts on that, on a trawler vs sailboat?
Wind speed would be nice to have but really not necessary I think. Like if a storm blows through your anchorage, it would be nice to say that you had 50 mph gusts with no issues, but what would you do with that info? At the time it is happening, not sure you would do anything to react to it.
Wind speed would be nice to have but really not necessary I think. Like if a storm blows through your anchorage, it would be nice to say that you had 50 mph gusts with no issues, but what would you do with that info? At the time it is happening, not sure you would do anything to react to it.
Second, there is some urban legend chat that Garmin doesn't play well with non-Garmin autopilot gear. Something about how the turn calculations within the MFD need a Garmin autopilot to work with the turn smoothing calculations and signals. Truth? Old truth that is no longer true? Just throwing that out there in case there is any current relevance.
It's a nice to have. Large vessels with flybridges get windage. While I have bow and stern thrusters, I also have a tight slip at our home port. It would be good to know the wind speed and direction as I'm making a 90 degree turn and backing it in. In the Inside Passage in PNW there are occasions when we anchor in steep deep fiords and need to stern tie to shore. The winds can become strong and fluky in the fiords. We also get wind upon waves, so it would be good to understand if its wind or current causing the action.
Aside from that I grew up as a sailor.
It's a nice to have. Large vessels with flybridges get windage. While I have bow and stern thrusters, I also have a tight slip at our home port. It would be good to know the wind speed and direction as I'm making a 90 degree turn and backing it in. In the Inside Passage in PNW there are occasions when we anchor in steep deep fiords and need to stern tie to shore. The winds can become strong and fluky in the fiords. We also get wind upon waves, so it would be good to understand if its wind or current causing the action.
Aside from that I grew up as a sailor.
Many valid opinions here so I am going to join in. I too want the type of information that the 220WX Weather Station provides:
Apparent wind and direction
True Wind and direction
Air temperature
Barometric pressure
Relative Humidity
etc.
I am interested in knowing all of these things (the reason I have a weather station at my house). I always want more data, not less.
When I went from a sailboat to doing the Great Loop in a power boat I put a Davis Windex on my burgee pole and looked at it often (got some strange looks though).
Just another 2 cents
To be candid, I would too, just because it’s fun to know as well! I just don’t think necessary for docking. Everything doesn’t need a rationalization! Do it!
Just a general comment first. While Furuno makes every effort to play nicely with everyone on everything, Garmin isn't in the business of caring about integrating with competitors. Their intent is to sell full packages.
I think Furuno's attitude comes more from being so heavy in commercial applications where proprietary systems and not integrating well just wouldn't be accepted. Garmin comes from recreational and feels it's best to control everything.
I find nothing wrong with that necessarily. You can't be expected to figure out perfect interfaces for everyone's equipment, especially when you don't even have access to their software and code. We had Garmin on our Sunseeker, were very happy with it in spite being Furuno users and fans, and would recommend that anyone going Garmin, go Garmin all the way.
I will add from talks I've had with someone employed by another brand. "We don't consider Furuno a competitor as much as a friend in the industry, but we do consider Garmin a competitor and not a friendly one. We would never share information with them. We're not about to make integration easier for them as providing the information necessary gives them more information on our systems and our code."
I would say with Garmin or Simrad go all the way. There was a time, Simrad was the leader in Autopilots and most others integrated without a problem. But Navico (owner or Simrad, Lowrance, B&G, Cmap) and Garmin are not friends. And now that Brunswick has purchased Navico, don't expect it to get friendlier. Don't expect to see Garmin on Sea-Ray anytime soon.
Another example, Furuno still integrates well with FLIR, even with FLIR owning Raymarine. Does it surprise you that Garmin uses their own product instead?
Garmin has an excellent complete package. To try to piece competitor products in would be a mistake. I'd recommend to someone wanting to go to Garmin but having a Simrad autopilot they want to keep, to rethink things. May be fine today, but long term you will end up with a problem, a lot of finger pointing, and no solution.
This is the software world. Does Microsoft play friendly? Does Apple?
FWT; Second said:That is an absolute truth on my boat with Garmin GPS and Simrad autopilot. Electronics are approaching 10 years old so I don't know if that's still true with brand new electronics. A/P will track to a waypoint but won't follow a course that the GPS generates for you.
Regarding the wind instrument, I was expressing an opinion that was solicited. I don't think my comments or anyone else's were criticism. I'd love to have one and enjoy all things weather-related, I just see it as being necessary or particularly useful. If I was spec-ing out a new electronics package for a new boat, I'd probably include it. Why not?
Then there is this coming along.
https://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/s4/starlink-61866.html
Should accelerate some of the development of systems and the sunsetting of others.
Indeed
The cost of the Trac antennas is significant. I had already been about decided to not go there and instead just await Starlink. Seems like that plan just gets better with each new tidbit of news.
In order to have momma on the boat, we will need some access to TV, and with the ridiculous cost of cellular access, it still makes sense for me. If it were just me, then I wouldn’t put a tracvision up.