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City: Tacoma, WA & Ashland, OR
Vessel Name: boatless, ex: Seeadler
Vessel Model: RAWSON 41
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,135
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Originally Posted by BruceK
Seems to me the cruise industry is understandably desperate to survive. Desperate people can do desperate things.
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Yup:
Unvaccinated Cruise Guests Get Second-Class Treatment at Sea
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07-07-2021, 07:52 PM
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Guru
City: Alexandria, VA
Vessel Model: 2000 Wellcraft
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,467
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I would just as soon go visit a TB ward as go on a cruise these days.
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07-07-2021, 08:36 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,030
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Originally Posted by AlaskaProf
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Smart move by RCCL. but, they should not even board unvaxxed pax. Even vaxxed, I would not want to share a ship with them.
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BruceK
2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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07-14-2021, 11:05 AM
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,006
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Interesting development.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/...ngapore-cruise
That said, these cruises have been going on for months with no previous incidents.
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07-15-2021, 04:16 PM
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,006
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https://vancouversun.com/news/econom...5-d6e872c01ff0
Canada is lifting the cruise ship ban earlier than initially proposed. November 1st, which doesn't really make much difference...
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02-03-2022, 11:57 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,030
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A month ago we booked a domestic cruise in late 2022. Today the operator cancelled it, saying they intend keeping the ships in North America,at present the one we booked is "at anchor" (no idea what kind  ) in the Middle East.
Cruises are banned here until Feb 17.No news from Govt what happens after,plenty of agitation by ship operators for reopening but, methinks this suggests "ban continued", Ruby Princess aftermath I guess.
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BruceK
2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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02-04-2022, 07:13 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,030
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News Article about Carnival pulling out of Australia until it has clarity about operations.
https://www.portstephensexaminer.com...uise-industry/
The "Port Stephens Examiner" is hardly a major news source, but this suggests the Feb 17 Govt. Review of cruising bans may be negative. That or Carnival`s recent marketing of cruises this year was not successful in attracting bookings.
Australia currently has a lot of Omicron, with increased hospitalizations and deaths, maybe starting to decline, maybe not. That may be a factor in willingness to cruise, for Govt. and people. To a great extent, Western Australia remains off limits for most Australians, even for WA residents who left the State for short or long absences, such that some WA based businesses are looking at management relocating east.
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BruceK
2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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07-13-2022, 12:13 AM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,030
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Cruise sips are back, and so is Covid. Coral/Covid Princess is in today Sydney, with 100+ infected crew and around 14 infected pax, while domestic cruising. "Sails" again tonight. Positive pax not allowed off, do they get the next cruise free, albeit in their cabin? Crew are isolated onboard.
Another mess methinks. Covid is ramping up,as is flu and another respiratory illness. Looks like wave 3, no reason for cruise ships to be an exception.
https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-australia-updates-coral-princess-cruise-ship-dock-sydney-covid-19-
cases/d7c2ffc0-cb44-4e08-ac7a-5c98095cb01a
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BruceK
2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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07-13-2022, 03:18 AM
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
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Dissapointing watching the interviews of those on the plague ships
Pretty sure they thought it was a joke
Only one mask to be seen.
Saw pics from a tightly packed concert in Europe yesterday, no mask seen at all.
Yet elective surgeries keep being cancelled
Hospital beds are in short supply
Staff are off sick
And death numbers increase.
Glad to be out here.
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Everything on a boat is broken, you just don't know it yet
Full time cruising is repairing boats in exotic locations
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07-13-2022, 03:14 PM
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Senior Member
City: Perth
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 374
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Cruise ships
Stinking cess pitts of disease - should all be driven ashore in India and cut in tiny pieces.
Nothing but trouble
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07-13-2022, 04:41 PM
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Guru
City: Corpus Christi
Vessel Model: Willard Vega Horizon
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bogranjac1
Stinking cess pitts of disease - should all be driven ashore in India and cut in tiny pieces.
Nothing but trouble
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Actually, help the American economy:
https://www.portofbrownsville.com/am...ecycling-port/
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07-13-2022, 06:19 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
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We recently had a family gathering for a memorial for my mom and dad. My daughter in law ended up with Covid and so did I. My symptoms weren’t too bad but it took about 10 days before I tested negative. No way would I ever set foot on a cruise ship. Discounting Covid, no way would I get aboard with that many people and hope there were no emergencies. No thanks.
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If you are one there is no explanation necessary.
If you aren’t one, there is no explanation possible.
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07-13-2022, 06:26 PM
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 5,409
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But how goods the footy
Last night's state of origin was a super spreader event if ever if seen one.
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Everything on a boat is broken, you just don't know it yet
Full time cruising is repairing boats in exotic locations
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07-13-2022, 06:32 PM
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 5,409
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And let's all rush off to Bali and not only get a dose of covid but bring back foot and mouth disease as well
Yippee
Stupid crowds at Sydney airport doing what stupid does.
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Everything on a boat is broken, you just don't know it yet
Full time cruising is repairing boats in exotic locations
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07-13-2022, 07:09 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Why are some small-boat owners so obsessed with demonizing cruise ships? Jealous of the facilities and services? Cruise ships are not relevant to "trawler" discussions unless one compares luxury to camping, or socializing to isolation.
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07-13-2022, 08:17 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,030
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Lousy at maths, but the reported pax infection score on Coral Princess so far is 14 out of 2300 pax,ie. 0.6%. Sydney went from 10000 to 14000 daily infections yesterday. There are 8.5M total to date reported cases Australia wide, a figure some say you can double. Based on that, the Coral/Covid Princess numbers are seem modest.
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BruceK
2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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07-13-2022, 08:46 PM
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceK
Lousy at maths, but the reported pax infection score on Coral Princess so far is 14 out of 2300 pax,ie. .
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100+ infected crew as well so says the article
Serving drinks and foods,accessing cabins
No where to run, nowhere to hide, all sucking that same recirculating air.
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Everything on a boat is broken, you just don't know it yet
Full time cruising is repairing boats in exotic locations
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07-13-2022, 08:47 PM
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Guru
City: Gulf Islands, BC Canada
Vessel Name: Sea Sanctuary
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4588
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 4,273
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
Why are some small-boat owners so obsessed with demonizing cruise ships? Jealous of the facilities and services? Cruise ships are not relevant to "trawler" discussions unless one compares luxury to camping, or socializing to isolation.
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Umm, Mark. That picture needs some narrative or we will tink you were expecting company.  
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SteveK
You only need one working engine. That is why I have two.
Sea Sanctuary-new to me 1992 Bayliner 4588
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07-18-2022, 09:54 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,030
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P & O`s Pacific Explorer(? an ex Princess ship) docked in Sydney yesterday with 100+ infected pax. Nothing said about crew infections. It was continuing on cruising, leaving Sydney later that day. Ship was meeting cost of delivering the infected home in some vehicle( poor driver!)or if not local,paying for hotel accomm until not infected.Apparently infected pax get treated onboard by ship`s medics gratis.
Interesting trend developing,Covid as an accepted concomitant of cruising.
Prediction is that the current wave in Australia may peak mid August. Presumably that will be reflected in cruise ship cases as well as the general population.
What`s happening elsewhere, USA, Canada, etc?
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BruceK
2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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07-19-2022, 12:44 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Brisbane
Vessel Name: Insequent
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 50 Mk I
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,085
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I'm not sure I see the cruise ships gratis medical treatment and free transport or accommodation as benevolent. More likely a bribe. On one ship infected passengers were locked into their cabins to minimise risks to others. A comfortable prison perhaps, but a prison still.
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