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Old 03-28-2017, 09:56 AM   #41
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Depends on wind weather and current. . When baking into the slip we set a spring line first so i can back against it and hold the boat in position against the dock. So Cristina hops onto the dock in those approaches and secures the spring. Otherwise she takes the stern. For locking she is usually positioned on the upper deck. We prefer to dock with no dock hand help. They often won't listen to our requests and do not understand how to deploy a spring line.
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Old 03-28-2017, 10:32 AM   #42
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I guess I will be researching the proper use of a spring line on a single engine boat

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Old 03-28-2017, 10:41 AM   #43
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Springs are just as, or even more effective on a twin screw...
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Old 03-28-2017, 01:56 PM   #44
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I drive from the upper helm so I can clearly see around the boat. I just like to see all around without some limitations from the lower helm. I also have a camera pointing to the swim platform to see how close it is to the dock.


Tadhana is right about people helping you from the dock. Most don't know a spring line from a fender!
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Old 03-29-2017, 07:04 PM   #45
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Thanks for the input, but did you mean a rope from a bumper? Does anyone know how many of our RPH boats were sold in the U.S.?
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Old 09-03-2017, 09:34 AM   #47
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Looking at a couple of Mariner Sevilles on Yachtworld and it appears the hull of the Helmsman 38 is slightly longer and the beam is slightly less. Are they in fact different hulls or are the dimensions listed on YW in error?
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Old 09-03-2017, 11:43 AM   #48
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Mariner 37/ Helmsman 38

The hull length and beam are identical. Same molds. The latest have a slightly flatter pilothouse roof, and the top deck has been extended to provide a bit better protection for the cockpit. Also have improved rain gutters. There are some other minor improvements such as the inlay in the salon table, and a notch to reduce head bump when descending stairs frm pilothouse to salon. These are really fine boats, both in design and construction. The quality is exceptional, comparable to multi-million dollar mega-yachts. If these were built in USA, price would be well over 1.5 million dollars. Good luck.
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Old 09-03-2017, 12:25 PM   #49
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The hulls are the same. The keel is changed. The rudder is now 2' further aft. Saw Scott in Seattle last Sunday. He gave me the full tour of the 31 and 43. Beautiful built and finished! The H 38e will be displayed at trawlerfest and the Annapolis boat show.
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Tadhana, is your boat branded as a Mariner? Also, what model year was the keel and rudder extended aft by 2 feet?
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Old 09-03-2017, 02:48 PM   #51
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Mariner Seville Pilothouse Hull #16 delivered 2009. The lying cheating scumbag importer had just acquired Camino and in some sort of business scam gave the boat a Comano HIN?... I have known Scott and Lisa for about 10 years. I do a bit of work with them from time to time, so we rebadged the boat as a Helmsman. I do not know exactly when they modified the keel/rudder
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Thanks for the info guys.
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at which hull number did they move the rudder back 2'
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I do not know exactly which hull number was the first with the new rudder/propeller configuration. It would probably have been in 2015 or so, but Scott can tell you for sure. In my career, I have designed and built boat professionally. I played around with the rudder design a bit, and finally settled on adding 2 inches to the leading edge of the rudder. It made all the difference in the world. adding to the leading edge is far more efficient and effective than adding to the trailing edge and it also reduces the steering loads on the entire system. PM me for pictures.
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I do not know exactly which hull number was the first with the new rudder/propeller configuration. It would probably have been in 2015 or so, but Scott can tell you for sure. In my career, I have designed and built boat professionally. I played around with the rudder design a bit, and finally settled on adding 2 inches to the leading edge of the rudder. It made all the difference in the world. adding to the leading edge is far more efficient and effective than adding to the trailing edge and it also reduces the steering loads on the entire system. PM me for pictures.
I was hoping to get some of those photos your talking about.
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Hi All

Swede Dreams have spent the summer on the Great Lakes. Are there any sister boats up in this area?
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Rudder extension

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I do not know exactly which hull number was the first with the new rudder/propeller configuration. It would probably have been in 2015 or so, but Scott can tell you for sure. In my career, I have designed and built boat professionally. I played around with the rudder design a bit, and finally settled on adding 2 inches to the leading edge of the rudder. It made all the difference in the world. adding to the leading edge is far more efficient and effective than adding to the trailing edge and it also reduces the steering loads on the entire system. PM me for pictures.
Just completed the rudder extension 2" to the rudder leading edge and yes I noticed the steering performance improvement in rough water right away very happy to have completed that alteration money well spent. The trip back to Semiahmoo/Blaine WA from Bellingham 5 hrs was 4'ers to an occasional 6'er heading into a port swell against the tide boat handled much better with the altered rudder.
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Matt, we are finalizing purchase of 35' Mariner Seville Sedan. Like you we are tracing existing knowledge on this boat & like you there isn't much out there. Tracking the HIN down to Chinese yard that built it, trying to locate schematics, etc.! Wondering if you'd like to discuss what you have found out in the 4 years you've owned your boat. We are in VA Beach the boat is currently in Annapolis. Let us know if you'd like to converse & we can send a private message. Larry & Erin
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On the starboard side of the transom just below the rub rail you will find a 12 digit number. That is the hull ID. Characters 7&8 are the hull number. Our boat is not equipped with two rollers. Our primary anchor rode is on the port side of the locker divider, on the starboard side is the anchor rode and chain for the second anchor and lies on top of it.
so does that mean this is hull number 09?
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Jeff, thanks for the questions.
I imagine that you must have some hours/experience accumulated with your boat...maybe the most of any Helmsman/Mariner owner? We have lived aboard since new. As of today that is 7yr 10mo. of continual use.

How many hours do you have on the boat? Engine hours 2800.1

What are you favorite three things about it? 1)The layout. large open salon. The separate head and nice shower: we only use marina showers when we are on the hard. Very good access to machinery components for servicing. Excellent visibility and excellent ventilation in the pilot house. We drive from the pilothouse all the time. The bridge deck area is great for entertaining. Salon table converts to a double. This allows room for our very infrequent guests, without wasting space of a normally unoccupied and unused second stateroom .
2) This will probably jinx me, reliability of all the systems. AC/Heat used for 8 summers and winters. no problems (Fwd AAC was taken out by a lightning strike in yr 4 and replaced) . Two heads in daily use. Never been rebuilt.
3) Sea keeping. My dad was a New England lobster boat builder,I designed and built boats for him. Spent my entire career in the boat building industry and have run all sorts and sizes of boats for god knows how many thousands of hours. So I realize that all boats are a compromise. But when I saw this hull I thought it would be a good compromise, and it has proven to be so. 3 times we have been caught in heavy squalls with exceedingly short steep seas and have driven the bow through waves, taken solid water onto the windshield (the mouth of the Potomac will do that to you), but never lost confidence in the boat.

What three things would you improve on?
1) Move the water tanks forward. with full tanks the stern drops over 4 inches and the bow rises about 2 inches.
2) Helm Station layout. With the fwd cabin entrance offset to starboard, it makes the helm console area very small and a challenge to fit electronics .
3 rudder location and design. Scott has already made one improvement by moving the rudder and prop back about 2 feet. Some of the original boats were built as a 35' express style. If you bought the 37 the rudder and prop are in the same place as the 35. the boat "hunts" a bit. But that being said, she does maneuver very well.

Thanks in advance.

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I recently purchased a 2008. Says Mariner Seville 37 on the side, and think it's hull 9. Every day is more overwhelming and disappointing. the last 36 hours trying to problem solve why it is so slow and difficult to empty the holding tank. Three times tried to use a portable dockside rolling cart. Could not get it to draw down. Used a better floating dock pump out station and after 45 minutes of pumping got it down to a quarter of a tank. checked the main vent. Outside metal vent is clear. Put a small probe tube in from that hose line end that went all the way to the fitting at the top of the holding tank, and that seems clear, although could not get the tip of the line off the L shaped fitting at the top of the tank to see the tip of the probe. Could that be clogged at that elbow? Used air to trying to blow through too. but since tank is a closed system, at one point could not keep pumping air through that line. Thought maybe the gauge was off and tank empty. Nope. Removed one of the 2 top in lines that come from the toilet, and found tank was full enough to pour out of there, filling a 5 gallon bucket. (that was before we got it down on the last pump out ordeal where we finally got it down to 1/4 full.) would like to head to Canada where you can dump 3 miles off shore, but found the macerator doesn't work. 2 of the 4 screws holding the macerator on the in line on were so corroded they were broken off and one gone. so tonight bought a new macerator and will install tomorrow. but not feeling optimistic. Have never spent so much money and gotten a boat with so many issues that need fixing, and, as many of you are aware, there is a shortage of qualified workers. so what will be the next shoe to drop? The sailboat I sold was in perfect operating condition. sigh...
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